DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
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air brake
Im building a air brake I was shocked a plastic 2 ploe 6 posistion switch
I don't wan't to try it with the heat produced so I ordered a electro switch
# C4D0212N-A. What did ken use ??? fot a rotary switch.
Best regards, Steve.
I don't wan't to try it with the heat produced so I ordered a electro switch
# C4D0212N-A. What did ken use ??? fot a rotary switch.
Best regards, Steve.
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
I haven't had a "real/original' one here to compare, but I like mine a lot, it doesn't do too much to the tone, and the price is right. 
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- Ron Worley
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Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Here's alternative Ceramic switch that I have added to the BOMs that I will post soon-
CK1455 Mouser PN I think.....
Ron
CK1455 Mouser PN I think.....
Ron
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Mouser part # CK1455 is the same one as on past BOM's for the Airbrake.
C4D0212N-A is different...much more expensive, but might be worth it.
Can anyone speak to which is preferable? Is a ceramic one necessary, or just "overbuilding" for the sake of overbuilding? I like overbuilding, but....
C4D0212N-A is different...much more expensive, but might be worth it.
Can anyone speak to which is preferable? Is a ceramic one necessary, or just "overbuilding" for the sake of overbuilding? I like overbuilding, but....
Tempus edax rerum
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Bump for info regarding the two potential rotary switches...is the spendy one worth it, or should I just go with the regular Lorlin one? I'm curious being as I don't know if the Airbrake really will put too much stress in terms of current and/or heat on that Lorlin switch...
Thanks.
Thanks.
Tempus edax rerum
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
I've had no problems with the Lorin switch, but I've never used on an amp of more than 50 watts.
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Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Thanks Mark. Much appreciated. The amp I'd be using it with would be in the 20-25w range, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe.mhuss wrote:I've had no problems with the Lorin switch, but I've never used on an amp of more than 50 watts.
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Again, thanks for all your help...the schematic, etc... I couldn't do all this without the help of people on this board.
Tempus edax rerum
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Hi all - newbie here.
I'm looking to build an Airbrake but with a couple of added features. To whit, a couple of questions if I may:
1. Could a fan run off the o/p voltage (as in the THD Hotplate)? Using Ted Weber's l-pad calculator, I reckon on there being ~17V across R1 at -16dB.
2. Are bright/deep switches a good idea? I'm guessing that, for the sake of a couple of DPDT toggles and suitable caps, it could be worth doing...
3. I'm a sucker for lights and all things shiny... If I was to stick a bulb into the circuit (maybe across the fan/R1), would it have any adverse effect on the tone, since I've read that a bulb may also be used to attenuate the signal?
Of course, this could all well be moot - Ken didn't see fit to put the features on the original AB, and if it ain't broke...
TIA for your help and advice - this forum has become regular reading for me!
Cheers,
Ross
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I'm looking to build an Airbrake but with a couple of added features. To whit, a couple of questions if I may:
1. Could a fan run off the o/p voltage (as in the THD Hotplate)? Using Ted Weber's l-pad calculator, I reckon on there being ~17V across R1 at -16dB.
2. Are bright/deep switches a good idea? I'm guessing that, for the sake of a couple of DPDT toggles and suitable caps, it could be worth doing...
3. I'm a sucker for lights and all things shiny... If I was to stick a bulb into the circuit (maybe across the fan/R1), would it have any adverse effect on the tone, since I've read that a bulb may also be used to attenuate the signal?
Of course, this could all well be moot - Ken didn't see fit to put the features on the original AB, and if it ain't broke...
TIA for your help and advice - this forum has become regular reading for me!
Cheers,
Ross
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Carlsbro 50 Top (modded) & PRS Custom 22
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
I believe some people prefer the cap and some do not so I don't see why you could not have it switchable.rosspix wrote: Are bright/deep switches a good idea? I'm guessing that, for the sake of a couple of DPDT toggles and suitable caps, it could be worth doing...
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Cool...I like switches and knobs...especially if they make things sound "better".
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switches
A while back, I wanted a bit more flexibility in the sound of the airbrake I'd built, so I added two switches.
The first was bright/normal/hi-cut. This worked on the existing cap on the rheostat which acts like an amp volume control bright cap. In bright mode, it's as normally wired. In normal mode, it is disengaged. In hi-cut mode, it goes to ground.
The second switch is normal/bass-boost/extra-bass-boost. It works by switching in a couple of fairly large film caps to bypass the attenuator. At the moment, I don't remember what values I ended up with for these (probably between 1-10uf), or which (if any) tap on the fixed resistor I fed them from. But just play with it, you'll find something that suits you.
I have no idea what these changes do to the load that the OT sees. I have to believe that the bass mod makes the OT see more of the speaker, and that should be good. But caveat emptor.
The first was bright/normal/hi-cut. This worked on the existing cap on the rheostat which acts like an amp volume control bright cap. In bright mode, it's as normally wired. In normal mode, it is disengaged. In hi-cut mode, it goes to ground.
The second switch is normal/bass-boost/extra-bass-boost. It works by switching in a couple of fairly large film caps to bypass the attenuator. At the moment, I don't remember what values I ended up with for these (probably between 1-10uf), or which (if any) tap on the fixed resistor I fed them from. But just play with it, you'll find something that suits you.
I have no idea what these changes do to the load that the OT sees. I have to believe that the bass mod makes the OT see more of the speaker, and that should be good. But caveat emptor.
Re: DIY AIR BRAKE WITHOUT THE RHEOSTAT?
Thanks, mark - the bright/normal/hi-cut should give me everything I need.
Now to order the parts and play!
Now to order the parts and play!
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Carlsbro 50 Top (modded), Blackstar HT-5 & PRS Custom 22
Carlsbro 50 Top (modded), Blackstar HT-5 & PRS Custom 22
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Ordered A BUNCH of parts from Mouser yesterday...fingers crossed...
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Ross,
If you get that fan working let us know. I've got my fan mounted on the opposite long end from the input jack. But I have not drilled a hole for the DC inlet yet and I'd like to use some of the stray juice from within.
Thanks for the idea.
If you get that fan working let us know. I've got my fan mounted on the opposite long end from the input jack. But I have not drilled a hole for the DC inlet yet and I'd like to use some of the stray juice from within.
Thanks for the idea.
All excellent things are as difficult as they are rare__B Spinoza
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It might be a while - the ordering of parts will have to wait until after the holidays, I fear...
...such are the perils of parenthood
But yes, of course - I'll report back if I manage to get things up 'n' running effectively.
...such are the perils of parenthood
But yes, of course - I'll report back if I manage to get things up 'n' running effectively.
www.rossedwards.net
Carlsbro 50 Top (modded), Blackstar HT-5 & PRS Custom 22
Carlsbro 50 Top (modded), Blackstar HT-5 & PRS Custom 22