I noticed today one of the dealers ads in Vintage Guitar lists Ginger "first ever Trainwreck" for sale for something like $39,000.
Anybody know more about this? Who was the original owner? Are there any pics of her insides?
Ginger for sale?
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Ginger for sale?
Rich Gordon
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Rich, Ginger changes hands all the time. Caspar McCloud owned it originally and was the first one made. Ken made it for Caspar. Caspar has a "Liverpool" made by me now and used it on his newest album. 
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There are some grainy photo's of Ginger in the files section... not good quality unfortunately...
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Thanks for the info. If it changes hands again, maybe it'll fall into forum-friendly hands.
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Yeah, I saw photos of Ginger for sale somewhere just last week. I thought it was an old ad or something...I didn't realize this was a recent sale!
That said, if it were me, I'd be checking out that one shop in New York that has...what, a half dozen TW amps? I'd try out the George Lynch one and the Rev. Billy one and whatever else they had.
Ginger is a piece of history, but I bet Ken's further tweaked ones are more my style.
That said, if it were me, I'd be checking out that one shop in New York that has...what, a half dozen TW amps? I'd try out the George Lynch one and the Rev. Billy one and whatever else they had.
Ginger is a piece of history, but I bet Ken's further tweaked ones are more my style.
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Ginger
Ginger is at Lark Street music in Teaneck, NJ. They've had her since before Ken passed but didn't advertise her for sale until recently.
I think she was serviced recently by Amp Garage member '67 Plexi, he posted something about it within the past year or so.
I think she was serviced recently by Amp Garage member '67 Plexi, he posted something about it within the past year or so.
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Maverick Music had it for sale a year ago at the Boston Amp/Guitar show.
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Yes, I serviced Ginger for Buzz a few months ago.
It had a few dry joints and I replaced the power tubes with either some Mullards or Siemens (I can't quite remember).
I do remember it sounded nice, although I thought there was too much low end going on. andit was as tight as a crabs arse.
I think it was Kens first TW, so it's a nice piece of history.
It used the burgundy signal caps like you would have found in an Ampeg and the power supply arrangement was pretty funky for such a low powered amp, which explains for the bass content.
The HT comes from the full wave bridge and two 100uF in parallel are used (200uF !!) on the plates with a 470k 3W resistor from the HT line to ground. Then there's the standby switch, a 1K 10W ceramic dropping resistor and another 100uF cap on the screens. Then there's two 10K 3W carbon comp resistors in series, a 60uF capacitor on the PI, another 10K 3W CC and another 60uF cap on the secondary gain stage, another 10K 3W resistor and a 22uF on the primary gain stages.
Thats a shit load of filtering for a 30W amp.
For those that care about these things, the 100uF capacitors are 'Unicon' brand and the 60uF and 22uF are 'Bellcon' brand.
Alan.
It had a few dry joints and I replaced the power tubes with either some Mullards or Siemens (I can't quite remember).
I do remember it sounded nice, although I thought there was too much low end going on. andit was as tight as a crabs arse.
I think it was Kens first TW, so it's a nice piece of history.
It used the burgundy signal caps like you would have found in an Ampeg and the power supply arrangement was pretty funky for such a low powered amp, which explains for the bass content.
The HT comes from the full wave bridge and two 100uF in parallel are used (200uF !!) on the plates with a 470k 3W resistor from the HT line to ground. Then there's the standby switch, a 1K 10W ceramic dropping resistor and another 100uF cap on the screens. Then there's two 10K 3W carbon comp resistors in series, a 60uF capacitor on the PI, another 10K 3W CC and another 60uF cap on the secondary gain stage, another 10K 3W resistor and a 22uF on the primary gain stages.
Thats a shit load of filtering for a 30W amp.
For those that care about these things, the 100uF capacitors are 'Unicon' brand and the 60uF and 22uF are 'Bellcon' brand.
Alan.
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The cap values I quoted above are correct according to the drawing I made. I think when I wrote that previous thread I did it from the top of my head. You have me wondering now. Either way, its still a lot of filtering.gearhead wrote:You did a good rundown in this thread:
https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?t=3702
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I would too trust your drawing.
Posted it more to refer to the re-tubing (Amperex-Holland).
Posted it more to refer to the re-tubing (Amperex-Holland).