I am going to change the plug on this to a three prong. Questions
1. The current plug has two black wires which one is hot ?
2. How do i configure this with regard to the AC receptacle.
I am going to drill a small hole and put in a grounding tab
3. Does the AC receptacle need to be grounded as well ??
What is the correct safe way to do this
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Tremolux help
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tonalvision
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Re: Tremolux help
YOU SHOULD USE THE WIRE THAT GOES TO THE SWITCH AS YOUR HOT, THE NEUTRAL SHOULD GO TO THE WIRE THAT ROUTES THRU THE FUSE, THE NEW THREE PRONG CORD WILL HAVE A PRONG THAT IS WIDER THAN THE OTHER -THAT IS YOUR NEUTRAL PRONG, IF YOUR NEW WIRE IS NOT COLOR CODED, THEN TRACE THE WIRE CONNECTED TO THE WIDE PRONG AND USE IT AS THE NEUTRAL. IF YOUR NEW WIRE IS COLOR CODED, THE WHITE IS NEUTRAL AND THE BLACK IS HOT.
DO NOT DRILL YOUR CHASSIS, IT IS NOT REVERSIBLE AND WILL POTENTIALLY MAKE IT LESS DESIRABLE IF YOU SELL IT, YOU CAN USE A BOLT THAT ALREADY THERE IF IT HAS GOOD CONTACT WITH THE CHASSIS OR, GO AHEAD AND SOLDER YOUR YOUR GROUND DIRECTLY TO THE CHASSIS, YOU WILL NEED TO PREP THE CHASSIS, CLEAN A SMALL (AS SMALL AS PRACTICAL) AREA IN AN WHERE YOU CAN EASILY WORK NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE OTHER POWER CONNECTIONS. YOU WILL NEED A PRETTY BIG SOLDERING IRON TO GET THE CHASSIS HOT ENOUGH, SEE IF YOU CAN GET A DROP OF SOLDER TO STICK AND THEN EMBED YOUR WIRE IN IT, DON'T BE AFRAID TO USE A LOT, LIKE THE SIZE OF A DIME. YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO NOT HAVE A COLD SOLDER JOINT. THERE ARE SOME WHO WOULD DIFFER WITH ME BUT THIS IS HOW I HAVE DONE IT AND HAVE GOTTEN GOOD RESULTS. I AM AN AMATEUR, BUT I TRY NOT TO HACK THINGS UP.
DON'T REPLACE THAT OUTLET. AGAIN THAT CHANGE WILL MAKE THE AMP LESS ORIGINAL. YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALLY NEED THAT OUTLET. IF YOU NEED AN EXTRA OUTLET, USE A POWER STRIP, OR EVEN BETTER, A POWER CONDITIONER. IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT, KEEP YOUR ORIGINAL AND DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT IT BEING PUT BACK THE WAY YOU FOUND IT. 3 PRONG OUTLETS ARE AVAILABLE FROM E BAY OR THE ONLINE AMP PARTS SUPPLIERS. YOU ARE AWARE YOU CAN BE KILLED WORKING INSIDE AN AMP IF YOUR CAPS AREN'T DRAINED AND YOU ACCIDENTALLY TOUCH THE WRONG SPOT IN THE AMP. EVEN IF THE AMP IS UNPLUGGED. IF YOU ARE NOT CONFIDENT, FIND A TECH. GOOD LUCK
DO NOT DRILL YOUR CHASSIS, IT IS NOT REVERSIBLE AND WILL POTENTIALLY MAKE IT LESS DESIRABLE IF YOU SELL IT, YOU CAN USE A BOLT THAT ALREADY THERE IF IT HAS GOOD CONTACT WITH THE CHASSIS OR, GO AHEAD AND SOLDER YOUR YOUR GROUND DIRECTLY TO THE CHASSIS, YOU WILL NEED TO PREP THE CHASSIS, CLEAN A SMALL (AS SMALL AS PRACTICAL) AREA IN AN WHERE YOU CAN EASILY WORK NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE OTHER POWER CONNECTIONS. YOU WILL NEED A PRETTY BIG SOLDERING IRON TO GET THE CHASSIS HOT ENOUGH, SEE IF YOU CAN GET A DROP OF SOLDER TO STICK AND THEN EMBED YOUR WIRE IN IT, DON'T BE AFRAID TO USE A LOT, LIKE THE SIZE OF A DIME. YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO NOT HAVE A COLD SOLDER JOINT. THERE ARE SOME WHO WOULD DIFFER WITH ME BUT THIS IS HOW I HAVE DONE IT AND HAVE GOTTEN GOOD RESULTS. I AM AN AMATEUR, BUT I TRY NOT TO HACK THINGS UP.
DON'T REPLACE THAT OUTLET. AGAIN THAT CHANGE WILL MAKE THE AMP LESS ORIGINAL. YOU PROBABLY DON'T REALLY NEED THAT OUTLET. IF YOU NEED AN EXTRA OUTLET, USE A POWER STRIP, OR EVEN BETTER, A POWER CONDITIONER. IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT, KEEP YOUR ORIGINAL AND DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT IT BEING PUT BACK THE WAY YOU FOUND IT. 3 PRONG OUTLETS ARE AVAILABLE FROM E BAY OR THE ONLINE AMP PARTS SUPPLIERS. YOU ARE AWARE YOU CAN BE KILLED WORKING INSIDE AN AMP IF YOUR CAPS AREN'T DRAINED AND YOU ACCIDENTALLY TOUCH THE WRONG SPOT IN THE AMP. EVEN IF THE AMP IS UNPLUGGED. IF YOU ARE NOT CONFIDENT, FIND A TECH. GOOD LUCK
See If I have this correct
ok - by the way I have had this amp 44 years, its had the tolex removed unfortunately, but i would never sell it. So small alterations are fine by me if it makes it safe
Is this correct
1. Get rid of the death cap .05-600
2. Hot from new three prong goes to AC switch right side
3. Neutral ( white ) goes to the FUSE center
4. ground goes to blob on chassis or bolt on tranny ( install a ground tab )
5. bypass AC receptacle altogether ? It would be dead then
6. Get rid of ground switch
Is this correct
1. Get rid of the death cap .05-600
2. Hot from new three prong goes to AC switch right side
3. Neutral ( white ) goes to the FUSE center
4. ground goes to blob on chassis or bolt on tranny ( install a ground tab )
5. bypass AC receptacle altogether ? It would be dead then
6. Get rid of ground switch
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skyboltone
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Re: Tremolux help
Hmmmm. Let me count the ways.
1) yes dump the death cap.
2) why eliminate the outlet? It's handy for a variety of things. Effects box? ETC.
3) The two wires coming out of the transformer are the primary leads. They are both black. It doesn't matter which one gets the white or black from the mains outlet.
4) No. Please don't run the black from the cord set to the switch and the white to the fuse. Run the white from the cordset directly to one of the black wires from the transformer. Run the black from the cordset direct to the switch, then from the other side of the switch to the fuse tip, then from the fuse body to the other black from the transformer. Some manufacturers use a double pole single throw switch and switch the white from the cordset too. Not essential but a nice touch. The green wire from the cordset goes directly to the chassis (puddle or lug on bolt by itself).
Remember from the cordset Black=hot. White=grounded or neutral conductor. Green=grounding conductor.
Your pal the electrician
Dan
1) yes dump the death cap.
2) why eliminate the outlet? It's handy for a variety of things. Effects box? ETC.
3) The two wires coming out of the transformer are the primary leads. They are both black. It doesn't matter which one gets the white or black from the mains outlet.
4) No. Please don't run the black from the cord set to the switch and the white to the fuse. Run the white from the cordset directly to one of the black wires from the transformer. Run the black from the cordset direct to the switch, then from the other side of the switch to the fuse tip, then from the fuse body to the other black from the transformer. Some manufacturers use a double pole single throw switch and switch the white from the cordset too. Not essential but a nice touch. The green wire from the cordset goes directly to the chassis (puddle or lug on bolt by itself).
Remember from the cordset Black=hot. White=grounded or neutral conductor. Green=grounding conductor.
Your pal the electrician
Dan
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Re: Tremolux help
I don't mean to be offensive here, but I can't fathom how anyone could say that you should fuse the neutral (white). Fusing the neutral means that the circuit could still be (and likely is) hot after the fuse blows because the green wire is a redundant neutral. Fusing the white wire does absolutely zero for safety.
Fuse the black (hot) from the power cord. Here:
http://www.rru.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kalamazoo/
http://www.rru.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kal ... -2to3Wire/
The green ground wire gets its own lug on the chassis, as close as practical to where it enters the chassis. Use a ring terminal, a screw, a toothed washer, and a nut, not necessarily in that order. Some use a tranny bolt, but that is not the recommended ground point. Read here:
http://tinyurl.com/34nnk6
Like Dan says above, the two black primaries on the PT are typically interchangeable, so you can't make a wrong choice there.
House wiring standards are here:
http://www.stpats.com/index.htm
Once inside the amp, the standard for black and white doesn't apply any more.
Note: Black-White-Green are North American Standard colors. I believe Euro standard is Brown-Blue-Green/Yellow.
Fuse the black (hot) from the power cord. Here:
http://www.rru.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kalamazoo/
http://www.rru.com/~meo/Guitar/Amps/Kal ... -2to3Wire/
The green ground wire gets its own lug on the chassis, as close as practical to where it enters the chassis. Use a ring terminal, a screw, a toothed washer, and a nut, not necessarily in that order. Some use a tranny bolt, but that is not the recommended ground point. Read here:
http://tinyurl.com/34nnk6
Like Dan says above, the two black primaries on the PT are typically interchangeable, so you can't make a wrong choice there.
House wiring standards are here:
http://www.stpats.com/index.htm
Once inside the amp, the standard for black and white doesn't apply any more.
Note: Black-White-Green are North American Standard colors. I believe Euro standard is Brown-Blue-Green/Yellow.
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skyboltone
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Re: how about this method
This is good. Go for it.angelodp wrote:[IMG768]http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii9/ ... G_0379.jpg[/img]
does this work as well
The Last of the World's Great Human Beings
Seek immediate medical attention if you suddenly go either deaf or blind.
If you put the Federal Government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years time there would be a shortage of sand.
Seek immediate medical attention if you suddenly go either deaf or blind.
If you put the Federal Government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years time there would be a shortage of sand.
Amphenol grounded socket
I just scored an Amphenol three prong replacement ac socket for my Tremolux. I guess i just swap it in and run the ground to the same lug as the cord set ground ( tranny bolt ).
Re: Tremolux help
Yes, same bolt as the green a/c service wire.
Re: Tremolux help
You may want to hang onto the cap you take out of the "deathcap" position.
I found they had used one of the famous "blue molded" caps there!
I found they had used one of the famous "blue molded" caps there!
Death Caps
Ok... I think I have " famous blue molded " cap. What else can I do with it? Does it posses some special quality used elsewhere??
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