Too-hot EL34 bias causes preamp tube death in Hiwatt-style amp?

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MattG
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Too-hot EL34 bias causes preamp tube death in Hiwatt-style amp?

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A few years ago, I built a Trinity Triwatt from a kit they used to sell. It's essentially a Hiwatt DR504/DR103, though not an exact clone. Here's the schematic, and here's the builder's guide. (Compare to Mark Huss's excellent Hiwatt reference material.)

The newer Triwatts (such as mine) came with an output transformer capable of supporting either 6v6+kt66 tubes, or EL34. I originally built my Triwatt for 6v6/kt66 operation. Yesterday I made the changes to use EL34 tubes. This is a very simple change: a couple resistors in the bias circuit, and swapping the transformer leads.

After the change, I powered it up and started to bias the tubes. They were running really hot, over 55mV, in the initial setting. I started turning the adjustment pot to bring that down, and while doing this, I heard a "pop" come through the attached speaker. I didn't see any smoke or smell anything that suggested a serious problem, so I finished with the bias procedure. Then I plugged a guitar in, and... no sound.

After a bit of troubleshooting, I determined that preamp tube V3 was bad. V3 looks like gain recovery from the tonestack, and I think the other triode is some kind of voltage regulator (that's what I've hard, not sure about that; but I can say, the plate voltage on V4 was way too high, by 100V or so). So anyway, I put in a new 12ax7, and everything is fine. I then played it for a good hour or so, without issue. (Could just be expectation bias, but I do think it sounds more authentic with the EL34s. :))

My question: is it pure coincidence that that tube just so happened to pop and die right when I was biasing the new power tubes? I can only guess how much play time was on that tube - maybe 200-300 hours? Likely less. As I said, those EL34s were biased too high for a few minutes. I would think that wouldn't effect the preamp tubes, but I don't understand the circuit well enough to say that for sure. So I'm just hoping the folks here might have some ideas. If it's just a shoddy tube that was destined to die sooner or later anyway, that's fine. But I'm more concerned about other potential subtle problems.

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Re: Too-hot EL34 bias causes preamp tube death in Hiwatt-style amp?

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I would say coincidence.
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