dumble kit

davebolden44 · Post by **davebolden44** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:01 pm

hello friends, has been a while since i have put something together and i am getting bored. thinking about doing a dumble. would like to do a 50 watt 6l6 ods or something like that. wouldnt mind if it had reverb also. i have done an express and about half a dozen other amps and have never done one with reverb though which i like and think some verb would be cool. however i dont really know much about dumbles or where to begin or if he even made many amps with reverb. i guess my question for you guys is where to find the best kit/info/ parts resource for this kind of thing. was looking at cieratone but i think i will get some opinions from you guys first. thanks-dave

ToneMerc · Post by **ToneMerc** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:37 pm

davebolden44 wrote:hello friends, has been a while since i have put something together and i am getting bored. thinking about doing a dumble. would like to do a 50 watt 6l6 ods or something like that. wouldnt mind if it had reverb also. i have done an express and about half a dozen other amps and have never done one with reverb though which i like and think some verb would be cool. however i dont really know much about dumbles or where to begin or if he even made many amps with reverb. i guess my question for you guys is where to find the best kit/info/ parts resource for this kind of thing. was looking at cieratone but i think i will get some opinions from you guys first. thanks-dave

If you are looking for a kit, Ceriatone is your only choice.

TM

davebolden44 · Post by **davebolden44** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:47 pm

is that what you would recommend or would it be cost effective to source parts. i will admit that there are parts of these dumbles that i just dont understand yet and like any project i just want to be thorough. when i built my trainwreck rj was really cool and helpful. i assume that dumble clones dont have an rj counterpart so to speak?

norburybrook · Post by **norburybrook** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:38 pm

If you've built amps before then you'll have no problem building a Dumble clone.

it does take a good amount of time to get all the parts together. I spent a couple of week researching and sourcing parts for my first build.

Being in the USA will give you many many more options. unfortunately if you're in the UK the current £/$ exchange rate plus duty and postage makes things ridiculously expensive. I use Mouser UK, tube Town in Germany and inMadOut transformers in Italy for my builds.

This forum is full of experienced builders too so you'll get help with any build issues.

good luck.

marcus

ToneMerc · Post by **ToneMerc** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:00 pm

davebolden44 wrote:is that what you would recommend or would it be cost effective to source parts.

Simply, just if you want the option of unboxing and building from one stop shopping(a kit), Ceriatone is the only option. Otherwise, it's going to be a piecemeal procurement of parts from multiple sources., which may even include making your own boards and faceplates.

Personally, I shy away from kit anything. However; I would at least recommend going barebones, getting the chassis, boards and faceplates. Right off the bat, that would sure cut out a fair amount the laborious footwork and gives you the option of using the internals of your choice and your own transformers.

"Cost effective" is relative........

TM

davebolden44 · Post by **davebolden44** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:14 pm

yeah i am not really interested in faceplates or anything cosmetic and i can build cabinets myself and i just use my label maker, i love the beat dog look. maybe i will just start sourcing stuff myself, i have no problem punching turrets and stuff. just wanted to see what options are out there. as far as strait forward amps go i do alright but these seem to have stuff i am not familiar with like fet's. its just new to me. guess i have much research to do.

amplifiednation · Post by **amplifiednation** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:50 pm

I have a few chassis left and just listed some relay PCBs if you decide to source your own.

davebolden44 · Post by **davebolden44** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:09 pm

fascinating, what is the purpose of the relay in these amps?

amplifiednation · Post by **amplifiednation** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:36 pm

davebolden44 wrote:fascinating, what is the purpose of the relay in these amps?

To allow for remote foot switching - in most cases channel selection and to toggle boost, or engage the mid boost, turn Reverb off, engage FET, etc...really anything. You can even string them together to have more than one go off at a time.

metalguy · Post by **metalguy** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:53 am

If you are looking for a kit, Ceriatone is your only choice.

It's ridiculous, isn't it?
One can source all parts necessary from European online stores yet nobody in Europe is offering a kit. Most of the kits you can find are few Marshalls and couple of Fenders. If they can do those how come they don't offer D-style kits?

ToneMerc · Post by **ToneMerc** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:48 pm

metalguy wrote:
If you are looking for a kit, Ceriatone is your only choice.
It's ridiculous, isn't it?
One can source all parts necessary from European online stores yet nobody in Europe is offering a kit. Most of the kits you can find are few Marshalls and couple of Fenders. If they can do those how come they don't offer D-style kits?

Not really, free enterprise works and nothing is preventing EU folks from doing so.......you should take this up with your fellow EU zone folks.

TM

jelle · Post by **jelle** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:56 pm

Or start your own business offering this. Don't complain...take action!

vibratoking · Post by **vibratoking** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:39 pm

The problem with offering the kit, isn't putting together the kit. The real problem, as I see it, is handling the tech support that will inevitably be expected or required. The nice guys here at TAG will probably help the customers, but the willingness drops off when the kit supplier 'steals' the TAG info for profit. Just read some of the Ceriatone threads. The experiment will have to conducted to glimpse reality.

ToneMerc · Post by **ToneMerc** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:12 pm

vibratoking wrote:The problem with offering the kit, isn't putting together the kit. The real problem, as I see it, is handling the tech support that will inevitably be expected or required. The nice guys here at TAG will probably help the customers, but the willingness drops off when the kit supplier 'steals' the TAG info for profit. Just read some of the Ceriatone threads. The experiment will have to conducted to glimpse reality.

Regarding Dumble kits, that situation is no different than Brownnote. I can remember helping builders there on the BN forum when Moss was nowhere to be found, even before the BN situation got bad.

TM

vibratoking · Post by **vibratoking** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:19 pm

TM - I agree. No different than Brown Note. I remember how Moss was viewed too. BN wasn't that much different than Ceriatone IMO, except that Nik was viewed as going too far and not saying thank you enough or in the right way or whatever.

We also have this sticky: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?t=18953

Which was prompted by Ceriatone users asking questions. I'm sticking with " conduct the experiment and glimpse reality".

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