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Guy G, check out this thread: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=. The folks at Powerscaling have their reasons for doing it that way, which although I might not do it that way myself, make sense to me. Seems like it would be nice if they just charged a buck or two a month via paypal or something, but its their show and I think Mickey_C is right when he says getting a real email address is a small price to pay.
There's also this:
There's also this:
I don't know if that was a one time deal but you could ask.Well, I've tried to explain it every way I can. I'm sorry some people feel they can't supply a real email address. Personally I'm suspicious. They're not hard to get, as any paying email service will work, or for that matter... your job. If you really can't get one, contact me through my email. I will make you a 1 penny sale over paypal, confirm your identity with that email, and a confirmed shipping address, and you'll get passage in.
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Actually it's a completely worthless security measure.
Any asshole can register a domain name and spam you.
Any asshole can register a domain name and spam you.
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Oh yeah I hear you,
I have no bone to pick...just pointing out the obvious.
I have no bone to pick...just pointing out the obvious.
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What you're describing would basically be a liability waiver, not an indemnification agreement.Mickey_C wrote:Yup. Anything and everything. Should your cat get fleas, London Power had nothing to do with it. Should your wife leave you for spending all your money on amp parts, and then burning the midnight oil day and night, tossing your personal life out the window... it's not our problem. Should you decide that you invented something better than Power Scaling, and call it a Power Brake, and start spamming us, and we ban you, it's not our problem. Should a bunch of fat ugly chicks show up at your gigs, screaming they want your body, it's not our fault. Should you get constipated sniffing lead, and while sitting for 15 hours on the john figure out that our diagram is just plain wrong, and is really some secret love poem done in schematic-haiku to Jessica Alba... it's not our problem. Everything and all. Meaning the people behind it. So if userxyz starts dragging your parts company, or brand of amps, through the mud, we'll ban him, but we'll tell you "Sorry, that's not our fault, and your joining us you agreed to these terms of service".drew wrote:"Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries."
For what? Anything? Everything?
Got a problem with that?
It's also about us giving technical advice... so let's say you decide, "Hey Mickey said I should power scale my amp...and I did, and it caught on fire, and burned my house to the ground. Now I am going to sue him, Kevin O'Connor, and all the manufacturers on the board." Too bad, so sorry, you should've studied the warnings.
Requiring people who sign up for the forum to agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of the forum means that you're making the forum members agree to reimburse the owners for any money judgment that might be won against the owners by a third party. The requirement to indemnify the forum owners isn't even conditioned on there being some wrongful conduct on the part of the members in connection with the third party's claim. Basically, the forum members are being put in the position of being the forum owners' insurers. Yes, you can take the "if you don't like it, don't sign up" position, but it begs the question why the forum owners think it's appropriate to try to impose potential liability on people in this manner.
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So has the garage talk section on the ampgarage become powerscaling.com's personal helpdesk area. Since you don't REALLY care if the DIY'ers join or not and your REALLY catering to the manufacturers to make money for yourself and Kevin then maybe you should find someother place to hock your wares.Mickey_C wrote: Got a problem with that?
It's also about us giving technical advice...
Here's the deal - we'd love for you to join the users group, but you don't need to. There's plenty of other stuff to keep you digging deep in your wallet for years to come... I've still got all the parts for a vibroverb that I'm yet to finish.
The forum is really about manufacturers though, and we wanted it to be accessible to the DIY community, in the spirit of sharing. Our goal is to get more manufacturers and potential manufacturers on board with licensed power scaling.
What kind of spam are you talking about? We're talking about users joining the forums to sell their parts every other thread... and kicking them out only spawns four more dummy accounts... all the same user. That will be hard to do. Of course, like you said they could go out and buy a bunch of domains... sure.
Kevin would like to have a warm fuzzy that he's dealing with real people, not just people who want to get the goods for free, and have no intention of ever paying him the measly $5.00 per amp or kit that he wants for the technology when they go production.
And I can only agree.
And of course, for the DIY user, it's no big deal anyway. Many of you will never intend to build an amp company. You're more than welcome.. sorry about the email address, but it is after all a small price to pay.
And on that note, I think we've beaten this donkey to one hell of a death.
I had given some thought to joing but was a little reluctant to give up my email address. Why? Because your first attempt at putting up Powerscaling .com ended in the board being hacked in less than an hour. So far you haven't proven to me that my personal email address will be secure in your hands, that you won't get hacked again and my personal email adderess be given out to thousands of spammers.
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So, you ban someone for selling something on your site,besides the 5.00 fee for the PS.. but its ok to come here to advertise your site,and the 5.00 fee for useing PS. And if you build something different,different design..and call it something else.. your banned?What kind of spam are you talking about? We're talking about users joining the forums to sell their parts every other thread... and kicking them out only spawns four more dummy accounts... all the same user. That will be hard to do. Of course, like you said they could go out and buy a bunch of domains... sure.
Kevin would like to have a warm fuzzy that he's dealing with real people, not just people who want to get the goods for free, and have no intention of ever paying him the measly $5.00 per amp or kit that he wants for the technology when they go production.
Boy, in an amp forum ,alot of amps are different,but they are still amps. with different names.
So by your own rules.. you would be banned from this site. Since your site will be making or for KOC or PS users.