what a 4th grader was taught

[Reeltarded]

Ask an economist about anything from gun control to food resources or climate change

yawn

[cbass]

GMO allowed the Earth to double it's population in my lifetime. That is what I am sayin'.. 4 bushels became 10. That is the difference.

Well I'm in no way fit to debate with people.I'm a lot better with my hands than my mouth. but I'll try
I'd argue modern medicine has as much to do with that than anything. 4 bushels hasn't become ten.eilds have increased but there are better natural ways to increase yeilds.Chemicals are the easiest way and it makes the mega corps even more money.I know a few farmers.From what I understand Happy healthy cows through out as much or more milk than steroided up factory cows.

As long as these mega corporations run our food supply and arfe poising the earth.we pretty much fucked.There's your cure for cancer right there.
Its called stop poisining everything

[Reeltarded]

No buddy. Trust me. There is no way to naturally do this level of production without corn that is resistant to corn mites and wheat that is resistant to it's things.

Note that the crops have increased by 3/5ths in actaully around 35 years, and that is the stuff that doesn't spoil in the field and not lost to damage which happens too.

The problem for me is that food is less tasty. Real food. Left to their own the industry decided to lose tomato flavor for a fucking yellow turd that refuses to bruise. I have no problem with modified foods. Spider-Goat is pretty scary though. Silken milk.

OooOoooOOoooOo sheep that make spider web. Freaky, huh?

[cbass]

If you think about we have been genitacly modyfying food forever.Cross pollenating plants,grafting selecting the best traits for a seed crop.Nothing wrong with that.

Now some genius decides to make roundup corn.You can spray the shit out of it with roundup and it won't die.Then we get to eat it.Smart huh

We can grow enough crops the right way to feed everyone but not enough to make the megacorps enough money.It takes more work to do it right.Thats we things need to go back to family farms.A small farmer doesn't need to make billions and they care about the land and what it will be like after they are gone.Subsidze them instead of megacorp.

Ok time for the crazy paranoid religious nutjob part.
Satanism= Greed/power is the driving factor in what you do and who you are.

Those are the people running the country.

[cbass]

Oh and I still say medicine has more to do with the PE than GMO foods.
A flu epidemic used to mean millions died.Now an epidimic is 5 people that were already sick with something else and about to die anyway.

Got my morning speed ball in(coffee/bongs)I feel less arguemintive and crazy now.We are pretty much screwed The scales have tipped to far no reason to sit around and argue about it.

[Reeltarded]

Until there is undeniable proof that eating Lance Armstrong corn that could kick your ass is bad for you I am willing to pretend it tastes like the corn that used to grow on my great grandfather's cattle farm. My grandfather made everything taste like steak and corn. Oh yeah. It was steak and corn.

Bulls are very fast. I did not know that, at first. Seen one matador seen 'em all. I could do that without a stupid cape. Disney almost got me killed. Good. I passed that one.

I can't speak for Satan. When people act bad I blame people.. but we'll see when we get there.

[Colossal]

Monsanto is at the top of the list. Their Bt Corn, for example, is modified to produce a protein toxic to pests which discourages them from eating it. One side effect (of many) is that the corn slash degrades near watersheds and the protein then kills all the invertebrates. Those little critters no one sees or care about play an important role in keeping the balance.

If Satan has a middle name, it is Monsanto. Everything you have stated cbass and RT is spot on. Industrial agriculture got started post WWII. The Haber process allowed man to convert atmospheric nitrogen to ammonium salts. Nitrogen gas is reacted with hydrogen over a platinum catalyst under high temperature and pressure. Man now applies as much fixed nitrogen to the Earth in a year as the ENTIRE Earth naturally cycles annually (Schlesinger, et al). That is on the order of Teragrams per year. If you know what a Terabyte is then you know by proxy that a Tergram is one HELLUVA lot of mass. Humans truly are modifying the climate and biosphere and atmosphere. For the naysayers, it's simple thermodynamics.

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
- Neil Degrasse Tyson

[cbass]

Grow your own.I try to grow and can all our Veggies.Farmers markets kick ass.Store eggs are gross.We have local companies selling non steriod/hormone milk in stores here.Find people to split local grown cows and pork with.

I wasn't suggesting Satan was making people do things rather people are worishiping him(Money).
My only view on God and Heaven and such is.I'd rather go my whole life beliving,Die and find out I'm wrong than the other way around.

Sorry no more crazy talk from me.

Don't mess with the bull.Unles you're a corgi.You should see my bubba dog herd its crazy.The bull finaly realizes the dog will not give up and does what its supposed to

[Reeltarded]

All I need is coffee. Whew. I dare you to modify my coffee. Go ahead. Jack it up.

[Colossal]

I knew what you meant about the Satan reference. Yes greed is amoral and drives economic growth. The Invisible Hand only seeks the most efficient model, not altruism. No profit in altruism.

My wife and I support local and organic growers exclusively. Well aware of the low quality of store bought foods, terrible cruelty to animals farmed so people can feed at the top of the food chain for pennies on the dollar and with blind trust in the system that produces it. Kids are sedentary, growing beards and menstruating at 10 years old drinking hormone rich milk. Urban water supplies now have traceable amounts of mood elevators, perchlorate, high nitrate.

Very sad legacy for the next generation to inherit.

[Reeltarded]

Everywhere is local now!! It's just a 12 hour flight from the Matterhorn and we could be feasting on snow snakes or summit hamsters.

[cbass]

All I need is coffee. Whew. I dare you to modify my coffee. Go ahead. Jack it up.

GMO modified coffee bred with Benzadrine

[cbass]

Kids are sedentary, growing beards and menstruating at 10 years old drinking hormone rich milk

Yea I didn't start menstruating till I was 13

I was born with A beard

[Reeltarded]

What I need is a cow crossed with sugar cane and pure colombian yumyum. This cow needs to constantly have a fever around 200°f.

Mooo, indeed..

[Reeltarded]

Kids are sedentary, growing beards and menstruating at 10 years old drinking hormone rich milk

Yea I didn't start menstruating till I was 13

I was born with A beard

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