Guthrie

drz400 · Post by **drz400** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:11 am

Have you guys heard Guthrie play?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GOs7iLKaTI

keithrick · Post by **keithrick** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:44 am

That boy can play! Thanks for the link!

lastwinj · Post by **lastwinj** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:28 am

he is sick.

germ

David Root · Post by **David Root** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:18 pm

Who IS this guy???

dartanion · Post by **dartanion** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:26 pm

Yeah, that guy can shred!! Nice chops.

Stick to the fusion stuff though. His blues is hardly bluesy.

Is it me, or do all shredders have Arsenio fingers?

drz400 · Post by **drz400** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:51 am

David Root wrote:Who IS this guy???

He is pretty sick, his record is killer, there is a country tune that just blew me away. Well worth the buy

Some more clips on the cornfordamps.com site
listen to "loose change" on the sounds page
my only gripe is I wish he was playing through a fatter sweeter sounding amp. Cornfords sound thin to me. Kind of weird though many players who play like that tend to have a thin tone, maybe it is easier for them.

jaysg · Post by **jaysg** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:23 am

Sorry...tasteless.

Voodoo_Man · Post by **Voodoo_Man** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:41 am

Just a different flavor. Here's a couple I like. Check the tone. Simply delicious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq4ZlUY7tk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oELM-xXJQl4

mat · Post by **mat** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:54 am

Voodoo_Man wrote:Just a different flavor. Here's a couple I like. Check the tone. Simply delicious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq4ZlUY7tk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oELM-xXJQl4

Great tone ! One of my favourites

How old Joe was on the first clip ? 14 ?

drz400 · Post by **drz400** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:14 pm

Voodoo_Man wrote:Just a different flavor. Here's a couple I like. Check the tone. Simply delicious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq4ZlUY7tk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oELM-xXJQl4

Yes Joe is just a freaky good player, Guthrie has MANY sides though you have to hear the record. Great Jazz player as well.
You really cant compare the two

David Root · Post by **David Root** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:23 am

I thought the best Guthrie clip on that site musically was the Larry Carlton one, and the least impressive the Jimi Hendix one. He has the chops all right, but he sounds better when he takes his time. Speed ain't everything.

jaysg · Post by **jaysg** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:35 am

David Root wrote:Speed ain't everything.

A lot of music is in the space between notes.

jimipage · Post by **jimipage** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:19 am

jaysg wrote:A lot of music is in the space between notes.

that's why I listen to a lot of Thelonious Monk

dartanion · Post by **dartanion** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:47 pm

Smokin' Joe is a great player. Good to see that he has mellowed to more tasty licks than shredding.

Didn't S2 sell him an amp a while back?

brain21 · Post by **brain21** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:28 am

Guthrie Govan is from the UK. He teaches at one of the music schools there, and has been doing columns & transcriptions for Guitar Techniques magazine for years now (IMHO, the best guitar magazine out there now). Great player. His album is Erotic Cakes, and is pretty cool. Currently my fav song on the album is "Wonderful Slippery Thing" There is a vid of him playing it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMJH1r_YSaM
and another one (better sound, worse performance) here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbSVbXfTnOM

He plays and endorses Cornford HK-100 amps (IIRC). I met him briefly in the pretty empty Cornford booth at Summer Namm 2003. Very quiet, really nice guy. He gave me a sampler CD w/ Slippery THing on it during the show, but I didn't listen to it till I was on my way home after the NAMM show closed. I wish I had listened to it right away. I would have asked to give me a private lesson just to show me that insane string skipping/tapping lick in the middle of the song.

I have tab of it now, but that doesn't make it any easier!

As far as the shredders and specifically Cornford amps being real thin, I think that is not the fault of the amps, but their ears. It's the sound that a lot of them like, so that's what they dial in. Hell, and least it's more organic and thicker sounding than some of them back in the early Shrapnel records days. Eeech! Shawn Lane was a shredder and he had great tone! Temporal Analogues of Paradise has one of my fav guitar tones out there. Richie Kotzen is a shredder of sorts and plays a Cornford amp as well (his own sig model based off of the HK-100). He has a real nice, meaty tone.

I think some shred-like players have great tone! Other than the above mentioned, obviously Eric Johnson has killer tone. Uli Jon Roth has insane tone! I like Vai's tone (though I wouldn't try to play blue with it), and Satch's tone on the Live in SanFrancisco CD is realy nice too, though his new tone on Super Collosal, w/ his new amp is awful IMHO. It sounds like his old Surfing tone... very Rockman-like.

Brain21

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