Mac suck again

[Reeltarded]

Thank you Apple for making 4 month old software incompatible and making all the devices incompatible, and for making it impossible to resole the simple problems that are not even a consideration on a Windows machine.

Merry Eff You! Off with all of your ten heads you freaking beast.

[sliberty]

I am a new Mac user, and would like to learn from your pain (sorry). So how 'bout some details?

[Reeltarded]

It's kind of as long to explain as it is to arrive there...

Canon camera and a printer and the previous version of digital performer and the most common of hardware drivers for digital audio production and..

Some are compatible with the slightly earlier version of Mac OS, others with the current, some not supported til the next.. it's complete mayhem. When the devices that are not currently supported become supported the others will not be compatible any longer. This is why I ditched ProTools like a burning aircraft years and years and years ago. These devices are all less than 24 months old, and mostly less than a week old.

I just spent over 5 hours trying to make an image print from an already installed printer after 10 reinstalls of the software.

Who pays for the thousands of hours Apple robs me of? I do. I lose my life to a culture of idiocy.

Thank GOD for Windows and local drives. Death to the cloud. Death to Apple.

[Structo]

Buy a PC!

Sorry but the Mac fanbois always say, "Buy a Mac", when people have trouble with their PC.

May your new year be full of solutions for everything!

[Reeltarded]

New IMAC has no DVD/CD. If you have previous or current installs of updates to do that require a CD, FORGET ABOUT IT AND BUY A NEW CAMERA OR A PRINTER OR WHATEVER...

Grrrr I abouta cuss now.

[chief mushroom cloud]

It's kind of as long to explain as it is to arrive there...

Canon camera and a printer and the previous version of digital performer and the most common of hardware drivers for digital audio production and..

Some are compatible with the slightly earlier version of Mac OS, others with the current, some not supported til the next.. it's complete mayhem. When the devices that are not currently supported become supported the others will not be compatible any longer. This is why I ditched ProTools like a burning aircraft years and years and years ago. These devices are all less than 24 months old, and mostly less than a week old.

I just spent over 5 hours trying to make an image print from an already installed printer after 10 reinstalls of the software.

Who pays for the thousands of hours Apple robs me of? I do. I lose my life to a culture of idiocy.

Thank GOD for Windows and local drives. Death to the cloud. Death to Apple.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

[JazzGuitarGimp]

I have a few soft synhs I use with DP which supposedly won't work beyond OS X 10.5.8 (they are B4, pro-5 and Akoustik Piano). Although I have a friend who has used them beyond 10.6. My solution was to build a second boot drive partition for 10.5.8. I just boot up to the 10.5.8 drive when I want to work in the studio. I do nothing but DAW stuff on that drive, so no worries about driver compatibility, etc. It's not a perfect solution, but it works. I also have a third partition for Windows XP using Fusion so that it runs concurrently with OS X 10.7.5, since all of my CAD programs only run on Windoze. I use XP ONLY for the CAD software - I do ALL of my web browsing / email, MS Office, etc. on 10.7.5.

[NickC]

I abandoned Apple as a DAW platform several years after they abandoned me (that's right, I'm sometimes a slow learner ..... but I'm getting faster).

My current DAW is an i7 quad beast running Win7. It has been relatively painless (as painless as digital audio gets). Recommended. It just works.

Truth be told ..... I had nothing but trouble trying to stay ahead of the DAW curve with Apple's inexorable march towards cute gadgets and bloated stock price. Phewy!

[LeftyStrat]

It's not always Apple's fault. I'm in the Apple Developer program and they give you seeds of upcoming releases so you can make sure your software is compatible.

I've been burned by some of the hardware vendors who don't bother to update their drivers. Had a Pro Tools Digi001 that they just abandoned. I'll never buy another product from them.

Now I have an Alesis IO|26 and they're starting to slack off a bit too on support, but at least they released enough info to open source developers to allow them to write their own driver.

Firewire and USB are standards, so my rule from now on is never buy any hardware that relies on special drivers.

On the other hand, I'm pretty pissed at Apple for their shit wrt sharing optical drives. My youngest daughter got a Macbook Air for Christmas with no optical drive. I figured no problem, because it can share a drive with another Mac. Unfortunately, it can't rip audio CD's from a shared drive, which is the majority of what she would probably use the drive for.

[Reeltarded]

You do know that Digi is over as Avid, right? It's so on the way they are even talking about it.

Ding dong!

Who's there?

Dead witch!

Oh yeah.. you..

[ampdoc1]

I'm sure the problems as described above are valid. But I've been using Windows since DOS was released. including most of the versions issued. When I think of the hundreds (thousands???) of hours I've spent fucking with Windows using their own (shitty) software, I am glad to have a machine that will do the usual and simple tasks without a "NOT RESPONDING" flag going up every 10 minutes.

Apple must own a lot of MS stock, cause I'm sure if they dropped their prices by 25% for a couple of years, Windows would be as dead as the dinosaurs

My dream: To become the richest man in the world,..buy Microsoft. Then fire everyone concerned,..burn their buildings down, and sow the ground with salt.

Absolutely THE WORST product ever sold in the history of mankind, By comparison, it makes the Ford Edsel look like a pinnacle of smart design and engineering.

a'doc1

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[Reeltarded]

Edsels are great cars, you just don't get "it"!

rofl

[skyboltone]

My dream: To become the richest man in the world,..buy Microsoft. Then fire everyone concerned,..burn their buildings down, and sow the ground with salt.

I kinda feel that way about Hewlett Packard.

[Reeltarded]

Jesus. Packards were also good cars. I rode home from being born in one once. Made it to the house.

[Scumback Speakers]

Rant mode on

I got a PC programming degree in 1984. Basic, Cobol, Foretran and Pascal.

They're all pretty much dead languages now (or changed so much I couldn't do an IF>THEN>ELSE GOSUB command to save my life).

I got a Mac in 1985, haven't looked back, and yes I understand that most "businesses" run on IBM compatibles.

If I was a regular business that would probably be fine, but I'm not.

I do my own ads, I recorded a lot of my own clips (on Macs) before I paid others to do them for me since they were better players, also on Macs.

If you go to Musicians Institute in Hollywood (where they teach/train players to know way more about music than I'll ever know), they have their audio/video lab on...Macs. I know, I installed the two servers with the 12 workstations in 2006.

When I fixed high end digital video and audio systems they ran on...Macs. After roughly 13 years in LA going everywhere from Sony to Paramount to Universal to Warner Bros to all of the individual small studios, the ratio of Macs to PC's was roughly 8 to 1.

Do all of these systems require maintenance? Sure.
Do they all work 100% of the time? No, but the Macs were up the longest with the least amount of hardware/software interference and grief.

I've always dedicated computers to a task. When my clients complained about issues, they all seemed to go away as soon as I turned off the internet access, closed down the automatic updates (after it was setup and running well), and told them to buy a lower cost computer for email/internet/word processing and Excel.

The funny thing is I did such a good job of fixing the systems, informing the clients and then limiting their "hardware/software curiosity" that I decreased my own client base.

Whenever I see these rants it's always a case of "My perfectly good working system needs an upgrade."

Uh, no it doesn't. You need to realize that once you change your system specs/needs you've essentially said "I am willing to take on the grief of upgrading with the resulting hassle, headache and heartache needed to incorporate the new stuff with the old reliable stuff."

I've got 15 year old Macs here that run old Media 100 editing software and hardware. They run great, on OS 9.

It's this simple, every manufacturer decides to offer more features/specs that ultimately sell more boxes/add-ons.

If you decide you want what they're selling you have asked for the "upgrade hell" you'll inherently receive by making that decision. It's not a Mac or PC thing, it's a "the developers want you to spend more money on all of the new platform's base and upgrades..." thing.

For those in the PC camp, good for you, glad to hear Windows 7 (it's how old now?) is working well for you.

For those banging on Macs, you may be a few Mac OSX versions behind. Hell, my Mac Pro Tower (8gb RAM, 4 1 terabyte HD's internal, OS 10.5.8 ) is probably two years behind the curve.

But I can switch over to my later OS X 10.6 or 10.8 drives that are on the other internal HD's if I want to run that software.

And sure, I have the SuperDrive, and external drives, too. But I learned a long time ago that you usually have to wait until it's version 1.3 (with three updates/fixes previous) before any new upgrade gets all the bugs ironed out.

And ironically, since we're all so freaking cheap and like to cut corners on hardware/software upgrades, that usually takes the consumer providing the answers to the software or hardware company support team to iron out.

Why?

Simple, they don't want to test/upgrade/fix anything old if they can sell you something new that they've already written the code for. So unless enough of you bitch about having a 5.25" single sided floppy on your new IMAC or Windows Tablet, you ain't going to get one that runs DOS 2.1 from 1984.

/Rant mode off