bruno cowtipper schematic

[Reeltarded]

My amps are all nasty looking inside and made of pulled parts, kinda like building a pig out of barbecue. They sound great, for sure..

I am not selling amps for 3 grand.

I get your point Mr Mark.

[M Fowler]

Miles,

Your amps are great and I don't think they are a mess at all buddy

Mark

[Reeltarded]

I'll never show the finished insides. lol

omg it looks like icing in there.

[tag101]

My amps are all nasty looking inside and made of pulled parts, kinda like building a pig out of barbecue. They sound great, for sure..

I am not selling amps for 3 grand.

I get your point Mr Mark.

If they sounded as good as the Brunos, you could be!

[Reeltarded]

They do! You buying? You have to like Marshalls.

[tag101]

I'll make my own judgement as to whether a particular amp is superior.

Also, we know that Bruno has had some very poor looking amp builds and we know that Bruno has some major players using his amps.

So we're not going to get any where arguing that point are we.

Mark

As you should!

Bruno UG 30. No need to say a word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3fWH2qXOVY

[tag101]

They do! You buying? You have to like Marshalls.

Lol!

[Firestorm]

Never saw the inside of a Bruno, but I do know that the cardinal rule of amp design is: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Wouldn't surprise me (or bother me) if a successful builder copped a proven circuit (like that hasn't been done before ) and tweaked a few things. Use your own iron and it's a new amp. Right?

[LeftyStrat]

Never saw the inside of a Bruno, but I do know that the cardinal rule of amp design is: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Wouldn't surprise me (or bother me) if a successful builder copped a proven circuit (like that hasn't been done before ) and tweaked a few things. Use your own iron and it's a new amp. Right?

Exactly. And Fender used whatever components were cheap and available. Take a Fender circuit and optimize it with component selection to emphasize the good stuff.

I imagine there are some vintage specimens out there that sound better than others simply because the old CC resistors drifted a certain way.

Or take a popular Fender circuit, substitute components that are cheaper on your side of the pond, and voila, a Marshall is born.

[Reeltarded]

As far as copping a circuit, everything is born from that how to use a tube booklet put out by various tube manufacturers, no? After that it's kind of elementary where we are going to end up, whether it's a copy of someone else's bastard copy, or a tracing of the copy of the bastard copy. It's kind of like driving on a road.. wheels down is pretty much the law.

My attempts at singular design seem to pop up 6 months later in a 50 year old schematic that I find. The big magic is where you cross the wires. I think aluminum chassis are the best to work on because they don't tell everything what it lives next to and that makes placement matter more.

I have a super-secret concept I am messing with. If it works I am not telling, if it doesn't work I will tell you all about it though. lol

I have a couple badass tweeds, and a couple of suckass tweeds. I have some BF amps that rip, and other ones that really don't. The ones that are beat to crap really kick ass. I think beating the hell out of stuff makes it work better. I think the mess inside those Bruno amps might be part of the secret.

My Marshalls were mostly built on Friday, I think.

[LeftyStrat]

For professional amp builders, or even us amateur builders, the list of priorities is probably something along the lines of:

- Does it sound awesome?
- Can your target audience afford it?
- Does it sound awesome?
- Will it stand up to the abuses of the road?
- Does it sound awesome?

I'm sure everyone on here can appreciate the build quality of say, Komet Amps. Or that Peter Traynor could throw an amp out of a second story window and it would still work.

But I'm pretty sure tone and affordability probably guide more purchasing decisions among ninety percent of musicians than anything else. Sure there are Doctor-Laywer Rock'n'Roll wannabe's that will drive up the price of vintage gear, and pro's that can buy anything they want. But that is a small market.

I have only sold a couple of amps to friends, so I am by no means a pro. Mostly I fix amps for cash-strapped musicians at near cost, because I love the music they make.

And while amp builders may share an aesthetic for quality builds, the average musician will take one look at the guts and say, "Yeah, how much and how does it sound?"

[Firestorm]

I'm sure everyone on here can appreciate the build quality of say, Komet Amps. Or that Peter Traynor could throw an amp out of a second story window and it would still work.

Or the fact that almost everything that makes a Fender a Fender was done with musicians in mind: it's why the tubes are upside down; it's why there are chassis straps; etc. Yeah, it's got to sound good, but it's got to be durable and SERVICEABLE.

[LeftyStrat]

I'm sure everyone on here can appreciate the build quality of say, Komet Amps. Or that Peter Traynor could throw an amp out of a second story window and it would still work.

Or the fact that almost everything that makes a Fender a Fender was done with musicians in mind: it's why the tubes are upside down; it's why there are chassis straps; etc. Yeah, it's got to sound good, but it's got to be durable and SERVICEABLE.

I agree that those engineers that did those things were right for doing those things. I'm not sure how many buying decisions were made because of that. But thank god for engineers being engineers. Sure wish some of those guys had been around for the design of the last car I bought.

[martin manning]

The ones that are beat to crap really kick ass. I think beating the hell out of stuff makes it work better.

Hmm... Maybe the ones that kick ass got beat up because they got played the most?

[LeftyStrat]

The ones that are beat to crap really kick ass. I think beating the hell out of stuff makes it work better.

Hmm... Maybe the ones that kick ass got beat up because they got played the most?

Or maybe the Sozo's in them got broken in more...