wet/dry rig setup

[El Chiguete]

I've search for this on the web but I still have a couple of questions:

1) if you use mics like Eric Johnson to go to a poweramp, do you use FRFR speakers or guitar speakers?
2) should the wet side be as loud as the dry side?
3) any other info or pics of your wet/dry setup would be nice.

Thanks.

[Roe]

1 either should work
2 not generally
3 there's quite few treads on thegearpage

[stelligan]

http://www.mr335.tv/?channel=rig&videof ... lification

http://www.vertexeffects.com/blog/ty-curtis-pedalboard

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... fects.aspx

[Structo]

Here is a new product by BYOC effects.

It is a Amp Selector & Stereo FX Router.

You can use it for a wet/ dry setup.

http://buildyourownclone.com/ampselector.html

[El Chiguete]

You can use it for a wet/ dry setup.

http://buildyourownclone.com/ampselector.html

How exactly?

[Structo]

Did you read the description of the splitter?

[Reeltarded]

My stereo rig is not with a PA, but with guitar cabs. I split a line out or an effects loop through either a stereo delay line, or a small mixer.

The return is to a really big stereo power section and to two outside cabinets with the driving amp returning to at least one cabinet dry. If I defeat all effects it is three dry cabinets of equal volume.

The routing is complicated, but the simple details are all above ^

[El Chiguete]

Sorry for the dumb questions but I'm new to this more complicated rig and I'm just trying get as much info as I can on the different ways to make it work before I do mine.

My questions came because I'm not exactly sure where in the rig would you use this.

[El Chiguete]

Also, has anyone done a W/D/W rig all in a 4x12 cab. What I'm thinking that using the top 2x12 for the dry sound and the bottom 2x12 have them on a wet stereo 1x12 could be a great way to have everything together and easy to carry arround.

[stelligan]

Also, has anyone done a W/D/W rig all in a 4x12 cab. What I'm thinking that using the top 2x12 for the dry sound and the bottom 2x12 have them on a wet stereo 1x12 could be a great way to have everything together and easy to carry arround.

That would be dry/wet as here:
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... _Rigs.aspx

[Structo]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound like a dick.

There are quite a few ways to manage a Wet/ Dry rig.

From simple A/B/Y switches to Midi setups.

A very simple way would be to use a A/B splitter then have one cable go to your Dry amp and the other cable to your Wet amp which could have reverb or anything else you wanted on it.

You could use a volume pedal to the wet amp to control how much you hear.

Usually you want your Dry amp to be a bit louder.

[Reeltarded]

All my drive amps get a cabinet, direct signal feeds effects, and then stereo power out to a pair of cabs.

If the effects are defeated all cabinets are equal volume dry. When the effects are up it's just a mix on the outside pair, not 100% effects or even close, not even close..

[lions den]

Yes you can do it all in a single 4X12 cab. You want to answer some questions first. Is this for a live rig, if so can you get three channels on the PA one for dry, and two for stereo effects.

In the same cabinet you won't get a real full stereo spread on your effects because they are in the same cab and the speakers are close together. Does that matter to you, now much gear do you want to lug around?

I do a wet and mono effects rig in a single 2X12 cab because I want it to be easy to move and I'm running effects in mono not stereo. I'm using a line mixer so the effects are in parallel with each other, etc.

It all depends on what you want the setup to do.

There are a number of ways to get there and even more product choices.
In general you need some way to get a dry/line out signal from your amp.
You can then go to a mixer which is handy if you want your effects in parallel with each other. Or take the line out directly to several effects in series. You can control volume with a simple volume pedal.

Lots of options.
Sean

[El Chiguete]

I don't play live that much but I want to make a band now to play from time to time specific stuff and when I do I would like to get KILLER sound out of that rig. So on that idea the budget and size of the rig are crucial since for me (even if I had the money) it wont make sence to have a 5k rig for only doing 1 gig a month for pure fun.

Honestly I thought that by micing things up you could do it all together but everyone says that it wont work, so how about that for a smaller rig using something like the new cabinet simulator from ADA just for the wet side of the rig? http://www.adaamps.com/Products/ada-GCS2/GCS2.htm http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... I_Box.aspx

[lions den]

The other main question is where are your overdrive tones coming from? Pedals or amps?

If you are going all pedal then this box would work to let you send a dry guitar to a power amp PA or monitor, and also send the same signal to effects that would then go to a power amp PA or monitor.

If you want to use amps for your overdrive tones, this ADA product won't work.

If you share the rest of your setup it may help us define a good solution.
Sean