X-Blender or Minimix II, which one???

[kevster]

Hi !

I don't want to throw a wrench in things,but:

If you want to preserve the tone you seem to have carefully crafted,the best way is W/D or W/D/W.You could run W/D with one of those tech21 Power engine 60.It is a powered 1x12,fairly new and supported.You built your amp so you could easily add a line out from the speakers with a resistor,pot and jack.You feed your Gmajor II with it and send to the power engine 60.The power engine 60 sells for 340 USD.
I own/use a G Major II,own a Suhr minimix II.The minimix is a great product.However,you will still have the the sound of the slightly thrashed tone of the effects(from the quality of the ad/da's in the GM2)competing with your pristine tone in the same speaker.

Later. for another 340$,you could add one more Power engine 60 and have a W/D/W.
I know this is quite different from your present direction,but it is just another option.

P.S I have been using a GCP and GCX for 6 years playing out about once a month and only replaced one switch on the GCP.You can't get a better one for the price IMO.


Mario

Great idea!!! I would love to go this way, but I need to be able to put a mic in front of whatever I've got... I could do a 2 x 12 cab arrangement with W & D to separate speakers. At least I could put it in an isocab.

The effects... I have to have a good delay for what I play, so I can't do without... I could get the X-Blender and back out the GM II as much as possible to see if I can minimize the digital impact.

I'll have to think some more on this one.

I like your thinking though. You get what I'm shooting for...

Thanks!

Do you mean you can only use 1 mic(1 channel on the board)?

I COULD use two, but it would be a tough sell with the limited space we have. This is a 350 seat church and we're doing three services due to so many people coming. We've grown so much that we're looking at moving to a larger facility with a better stage configuration, but that isn't until next Easter...

I currently have a Sennheiser 906 with a single EVM-12L in an old Crate combo cab (amp removed). I'm building a 1x12 Theile cab (with the 906 fixed mounted) once I have more time. If I were to do a 2 x 12 arrangement, then I could double mic in an iso-box.

My rig will be taking up plenty of real estate with the head, a new rack case, and the foot controller. My speaker cabinet is behind a B-3 about 15' away from the head. Could I do it? Yes. Will it be a tough sell? Yes.

Your comment about the Suhr MMII, GCP/GCX, and G M II... You are basically running what I'm talking about. Is the GCX much of a tone sucker? I'd heard generally good things about it, but I ALWAYS have concerns. I'd thought about doing some creative routing (I only referred to one idea) to minimize the tone sucking of the effects just in case.

You like the gear, but your comment seems to indicate a concern about loss of tone. How's it impact tone with your rig? I take it the MM II isn't particularly helpful.

Thanks again.

[kevster]

Funny, I have been considering the Xotic X Blender as well.

In comparing the X Blender to the Suhr Mini Mix II, it seems more versatile.

Not only can you choose serial to parallel looping, you can actively adjust the Wet/ Dry mix.

It also has a phase switch, volume, bass and treble controls for more control of your tone.

This seems like it would work well in the Dumbleator loop.

I found it for $176 with free shipping through Amazon.

I have bought quite a bit of stuff through Amazon and haven't had a bad experience yet.

If you don't already have one, you can apply for a Amazon credit card and they will give you a $50 gift credit.
I did that the other day and got two new extension phones for my house.

Yeah, I'm leaning toward one of these too. I would only really want this for parallel, but I think the other features could come in handy. I'd love to get your opinion on it.

Anybody ever "A/B" the X-blender and MMII?

Suhr's got awesome products though... Tough to pass on the quality.

[Marioverkill]

Great idea!!! I would love to go this way, but I need to be able to put a mic in front of whatever I've got... I could do a 2 x 12 cab arrangement with W & D to separate speakers. At least I could put it in an isocab.

The effects... I have to have a good delay for what I play, so I can't do without... I could get the X-Blender and back out the GM II as much as possible to see if I can minimize the digital impact.

I'll have to think some more on this one.

I like your thinking though. You get what I'm shooting for...

Thanks!

Do you mean you can only use 1 mic(1 channel on the board)?

I COULD use two, but it would be a tough sell with the limited space we have. This is a 350 seat church and we're doing three services due to so many people coming. We've grown so much that we're looking at moving to a larger facility with a better stage configuration, but that isn't until next Easter...

I currently have a Sennheiser 906 with a single EVM-12L in an old Crate combo cab (amp removed). I'm building a 1x12 Theile cab (with the 906 fixed mounted) once I have more time. If I were to do a 2 x 12 arrangement, then I could double mic in an iso-box.

My rig will be taking up plenty of real estate with the head, a new rack case, and the foot controller. My speaker cabinet is behind a B-3 about 15' away from the head. Could I do it? Yes. Will it be a tough sell? Yes.

Your comment about the Suhr MMII, GCP/GCX, and G M II... You are basically running what I'm talking about. Is the GCX much of a tone sucker? I'd heard generally good things about it, but I ALWAYS have concerns. I'd thought about doing some creative routing (I only referred to one idea) to minimize the tone sucking of the effects just in case.

You like the gear, but your comment seems to indicate a concern about loss of tone. How's it impact tone with your rig? I take it the MM II isn't particularly helpful.

Thanks again.

The MM II is a great unit. You would probably be happy with the setup.I play classic/hard rock.Being from the 80's,I
like/want to use detune on my sound.In my experience,I don't like to have the straight sound in the same speakers as the detuned sound.If your using delay only as post fx,it is not as degrading to my ears.However,if you want to use modulation,I don't like it coming through the same speakers.Too much phasey cancellations kinda things happening.
If you practice plugged straight in to your amp,you will notice a difference when you plug in to the gcx/Gmajor II rig.
The MM II is an excellent piece of gear that does it's job very well.I only mention this stuff because I assume since you built a Dumble style amp,that you were going all the way to achieve a pure amp sound.Running W/D would retain more of this.
I may be assuming too much without knowing you.I presently don't use the MM II in my live rig,I am running mono.I don't use it at home either as I am running W/D/W.I am slowly gathering the pieces to convert my live rig to W/D/W.
The GCX works great.I don't use the buffer,I use the non buffered line in as I use a wireless.Some people don't like the buffer,some do.

I better stop there.LOL

Mario

[Structo]

I'm going to try the X Blender.

Most likely it will sit on top of my Dumbleator.

I use a TC G Sharp, not the best but it sounds good with my amp.
I only add a little reverb and delay to warm up the sound abit, I have other FX if I want big effects.

I have that and another reverb pedal, chorus and delay in the FX loop as well.

I will probably run only the G Sharp in the X Blender but we'll see.