Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
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Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
So I'm drilling and testing the mounting holes in a new ODS cab from Taylor. I guess something gets caught in the threads of one of the screws (this is a CE chassis) and the screw locks up. So I go to back out the screw and the nut busts loose from the chassis instead. So now the amp is trapped in the cab and I cannot get the screw out. I guess I'm going to have to try to cut this stainless bolt and hope it falls in far enough that I can get the chassis out.
Any better ideas? Thanks folks.
Michael
Any better ideas? Thanks folks.
Michael
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
I've used pliers to hold the screw (it will get hot) and used a Dremel cut-off wheel. Depends on how much clearance you have. I've also tried to drill the head off, but that's much more difficult.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
I don't own a Dremel, but perhaps a friend here (where I live) does.
I have a little more than 1/4" clearance, so I think I should be okay on that front, as long as the wheel doesn't run away from me and gouge the tolex.
I have a little more than 1/4" clearance, so I think I should be okay on that front, as long as the wheel doesn't run away from me and gouge the tolex.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
One other thing to try is if you have a pair of vice grips to put on the head of the nut, then a clamp to clamp the vice grip to the cab, you can pretty safely drill the head off the screw.mlp-mx6 wrote:I don't own a Dremel, but perhaps a friend here (where I live) does.
I have a little more than 1/4" clearance, so I think I should be okay on that front, as long as the wheel doesn't run away from me and gouge the tolex.
But this will only work with a phillips head. A slotted screw you'll just end up slipping off a damage the tolex.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
It is a Phillips head, so I'm good there. I may be able to work this approach. Thanks for the idea, LeftyStrat!
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
Start with a small drill bit to make a pilot hole, then work up.mlp-mx6 wrote:It is a Phillips head, so I'm good there. I may be able to work this approach. Thanks for the idea, LeftyStrat!
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
Lefty, that's just what I did and it worked a treat! Thanks. Chassis is out.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh
Mike, as you found out stainless to stainless threads will gall easily. I'm not fond of the s/s captive nut and s/s bolt combo. I've thrown this out there to the CE guys that maybe a switch to steel captive nuts would be a better choice. I highly recommend that the first 3-4 threads of the mounting screw be lubricated lightly. I use a synthetic lube.mlp-mx6 wrote:So I'm drilling and testing the mounting holes in a new ODS cab from Taylor. I guess something gets caught in the threads of one of the screws (this is a CE chassis) and the screw locks up. So I go to back out the screw and the nut busts loose from the chassis instead. So now the amp is trapped in the cab and I cannot get the screw out. I guess I'm going to have to try to cut this stainless bolt and hope it falls in far enough that I can get the chassis out.
Any better ideas? Thanks folks.
Michael
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
Having built custom chrome and stainless street rod front axles assemblies I can relate to galled threads.
Use never seize on the threads or switch to steel.
Mark
Use never seize on the threads or switch to steel.
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Glad I could help.mlp-mx6 wrote:Lefty, that's just what I did and it worked a treat! Thanks. Chassis is out.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
Ok Mark, gonna need pics of that hardware. See you bright and early with pics in the off-topic thingy!M Fowler wrote:Having built custom chrome and stainless street rod front axles assemblies I can relate to galled threads.
Use never seize on the threads or switch to steel.
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Re: Big honkin' uh-oh - solved thanks to LeftyStrat
For whatever reason those nuts on the CE chassis can cross thread very easily.
I had started the screws by hand when I was putting my chassis back in the cab.
I thought one felt snug but just thought it was rubbing on the cab.
So as I usually do I tightened the screws with my Makita screwgun.
WRONG!
I cross threaded a screw and it was locked so tight that when I went to unscrew it, the screw snapped off.
Eventually I was able to drill out the screw and dress the threads of the nut with a tap.
So now whenever I install the chassis back into the cab I take extra care to be sure that the screws are threading properly.
I had started the screws by hand when I was putting my chassis back in the cab.
I thought one felt snug but just thought it was rubbing on the cab.
So as I usually do I tightened the screws with my Makita screwgun.
WRONG!
I cross threaded a screw and it was locked so tight that when I went to unscrew it, the screw snapped off.
Eventually I was able to drill out the screw and dress the threads of the nut with a tap.
So now whenever I install the chassis back into the cab I take extra care to be sure that the screws are threading properly.
Tom
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