Walnut 1x12 Cab with Grill Cloth from AES

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Walnut 1x12 Cab with Grill Cloth from AES

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Has anyone used these to cover a 12" speaker cab before? I built a 1x12 walnut cabinet and want to cover the speaker so curious to get comments, walnut is dark and these are light colored:

radio cloth
Grill Cloth - 12" x 12", Philco Diamond Pattern, Cotton, Gold
(Wonder if this may be too thick)


speaker cloth
Grill Cloth - Basket Weave, Natural, 42' Width
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Re: Walnut 1x12 Cab with Grill Cloth from AES

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I think you can get free samples from AES.

Then you could compare the color of the cloth to the wood.
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I like their old radio cloth and want to order a bunch of different types at some time.

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I think that basket weave would look nice on the walnut.

Plus, you can always stain a natural basket weave to just about any color you want.
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The radio cloth looks fun. But I worry in a large format 20"x17" the diamond pattern will be too busy in addition to the thickness of the cloth.

I can get a sample, then wait for shipping again. I was hoping someone would have experience with these.
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do both :) layer them
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I seem to remember that the basket weave can change the tone of the speaker.
I could be wrong which is common but I seem to remember somebody saying that the basket weave was used on the Marshall 412 to kill a little bit of the harsh high end which is common for a quad of Vintage 30's.

Anybody heard that before?
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I really like there old radio stuff to and was going to use a nice golden color with my blueswreck.
Im going to make a 2/12 with the same blue die and same kind of wood, with the nice speaker cloth . they have packets with all there radio cloth for $9.95 or you can get 2 samples free.
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This guy did some nice cabs using the radio cloth.

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Mark, those look nice. It turns out google is once again a friend. Philco has a gallery and these two look like they have the diamond pattern grill cloth, looks nice. I may go with that seeing it on an actual unit with wood:

http://www.philcoradio.com/gallery/1940a.htm#ae
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That cloth does look good.

Can't wait to see your cab once finished.

Oxblood with gold thread would also look great.

Lopoline also sells a variety of grill cloth.

http://www.lopoline.com/Grillcloth.html
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Tom thanks. That wheatcloth looks like a contender. Here's some photos where it stands now:

Scumback m75 3/4" thick solid walnut for everthing but the baffle. I fingerjointed all the main pieces after building a jig. Matched the grain as best as possible from one 13"x8' board. 3/4walnut support framing on front and back to attach backer and baffleboards. I liked the three panel backer so I did that too (one on the table next to the cab to show the scummy blue). Stainless steel screws, knife thread inserts, blah blah blah.

~$115 total for everything including screws and washers. three nights of spare time. Still needs final sanding, grill cloth and finishing but it sounds really really good!
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I dunno if this will help at all, but here's an amp I built with the natural basketweave from AES:

http://i54.tinypic.com/166wap.jpg

The owner purchased the amp with a different front panel that has a "less opaque" black grill cloth. He asked for a custom front panel with this color combination and has been very happy. He hasn't mentioned any change in tone as a result of the grill cloth change. It's got an Eminence Copperhead (10") behind it.
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Re: Walnut 1x12 Cab with Grill Cloth from AES

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Tom, I have also heard that about the basketweave. And also the Bluesbreaker cloth, tightly woven.

I have a basketweave slant 4x12 with four Delta Pro 12A in it. That's a dark combination. Sounds good to me, but then my hearing is not good in the high end any more. I figure that's what tone controls are for.

I got the basketweave because it looks good against red tolex and it's fairly tough too. Jim Marshall was always more marketing than technical and I would bet that's why he liked it, because it looks good and doesn't rip all that easily. Plus it would cut those vintage 30s down to size too.
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Nice

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Jhaas,Thats a sweet little amp.Tell us a bit about it,Very,Very,cool looking,Mikey
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