Food for thought

[eddie25]

The secret investment is probably 'farmland', but that's a guess.

I saw that video a while ago. It's pretty simple, the gold brokers are simply pumping and dumping. Alex Jones does the same thing, I believe he is sponsored by gold brokers. These guys want subscriptions too.

But, does that mean they can't be right? Are our food portions at the grocery getting smaller? Is it tough to get a job? Do buildings fall like that when being struck by a plane? Can we really not stop a predictable oil spill for months in a region that the government is openly trying to depopulate? Are we really in much danger of terrorists? Food for thought for sure!

I was recently told to swipe my credit card at a tollway that I didn't want to be on. Turn around right? No, pay or get fined, cost me $9 to make a wrong turn. We don't live in a free country and shit is getting fucked up quick. The worse things get the more they are gonna need to take. I'll take the terrorist and keep my freedom, thanks.

[Reeltarded]

This is a common belief, but it's not true.

The gold market is very real. The lack of divergence between it and the common equities market is the BS.

Days with losses are padded by tiny buy-ins at slightly higher prices, grip. Gains are made on such low volume.. well, over time one could imagine a single (payer) player doing all this with a phone room full of accountants.

That is exactly what's up.

This is the long outro to the song you don't like. When the music stops, there won't be chairs for all of us.

[NickC]

I didn't view the vid.

My day-gig is an auditor/accountant. I've been in the finance field for over 30 years. I've earned the degrees and accreditation; worked in government, consumer products, manufacturing in posts ranging from junior accountant to VP Finance and Senior Audit Manager.

I understand micro and macro economics.

I could write a book for you, to explain my rationale for the next paragraph, and it would be a guaranteed cure for insomnia. But it isn't necessary. Anyone with their eyes open, their ear to the rail, can apply some common sense and arrive at the same conclusion. Reeltarded says "the economy of the last 10 years was a complete lie". I'll expand on that thought by asserting it has been for far longer than the last 10 years, and the "lie" is not confined to the "economy".

We have all been utterly and completely screwed ..... by the government we "elected" ..... in a steady capitulation of choosing the lesser of evils. Like refining uranium to plutonium, we're left with a very highly concentrated, toxic, and ultimately fascistic amalgam of a corrupt government and a corrupt people. It started down that slippery slope a long time ago. I don't mean to offend anyone by my political ruminations, but merely offer them as a point-of-view, and grant they are an over-simplification to spare you eye strain or a more academic presentation.

The following quote has often been misattributed to De Tocqueville. It doesn't really matter who said it (first). The thrust of the sentiment is on point.

The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.

[eddie25]

This is a common belief, but it's not true.

The gold market is very real.

Totally agree with you here, just saying that these guys are also 'salesmen' as many have pointed out. More power to 'em, I like Alex Jones. It's just impossible to know who's 'presentations' are the right ones, but I tend to agree with these guys, because they err towards freedom.

NickC you put it very well.

[Reeltarded]

I didn't view the vid.

I understand micro and macro economics.

Thanks, Nick.

I said ten years, but I really meant 40+. What I have seen in the last decade or so has been a blatant move. They don't even hide it now, they just smile and lie.

We wouldn't treat each other with such disrespect. Look me up after the crash.

[ampmike]

I think he makes some relevant points but it seems as if he is
just trying to sell his subscription. I googled him and
apparently in 2010 he was fined 1.5 million from the SEC for
securities fraud, so I don't know how reliable his word is.
Also, I think it was easy to predict the collapse of GM,
Leiman Brothers, Fannie and Freddie Mae and so on and a lot
of other people did see it. If his video was true I think a
lot of other financial gurus with educations from Harvard
and Yale would be able to foresee this and I haven;t heard
anything yet.

Thanks, Mikey

[dynaman]

I think he makes some relevant points but it seems as if he is
just trying to sell his subscription. I googled him and
apparently in 2010 he was fined 1.5 million from the SEC for
securities fraud, so I don't know how reliable his word is.
Also, I think it was easy to predict the collapse of GM,
Leiman Brothers, Fannie and Freddie Mae and so on and a lot
of other people did see it. If his video was true I think a
lot of other financial gurus with educations from Harvard
and Yale would be able to foresee this and I haven;t heard
anything yet.

Thanks, Mikey

Yeah, I couldn't help but wonder what "assets" he was speaking of. Other members speculated on hard commodities like farmland and gold, but I was thinking it was possibly another financial device. Kinda like betting on the collapse of the dollar or "insurance" against such an event. I'm completely ignorant to how that stuff works, but I'd imagine a hard commodity could be used for collateral? WAY over my head.

[ampmike]

Actually,My daughter Kayla checked this out for me,She is in college for buisness.I sent her the link today and that post said ,"Hey Dad I checked this guy out".All this is way over my head.But it got me going when I started my day.
I never made it to trainwreck discussion or tech discussion this morning,There are some very smart dudes here on TAG,that is a fact.Mikey

[Reeltarded]

I don't know how to prepare, so I wait.

The World needs steady voices. I can do my best there. We all have each other.. you know.

[daydreamer]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk offending, but I have a theory about our western culture. Whether our countries survive like they are or, like dynaman pointed out, loose their empires like the British did, our culture is still the most advanced. Why? Because we care about the individual and give them rights.

Muslim militants are taking over Africa daily. Whenever you hear 'tensions between christians and muslims' on the news you can be sure it was when the muslims started burning the villages shouting 'god is great'. In this respect China is our friend, because unlike the unruly jihadist, China for the last 30 years has been buying and building the African infrastructure. They own the roads, railroads etc. But ultimately every Chinese youth yearns to live free like our children do, so their dreams are of OUR CULTURE.

Things will change, but the superior culture will win in the end.( Even if we are just provinces of China eventually.)

TAG will still be going strong, just we will have more guys called 'Lee' around. Start learning Mandarin like I did a few years ago, and 'she'll be right mate'.

The last thing we need is another war over this shit. i have faith that the chinese middle class will save the world, eventually they will want their world to look like our world. You tell me, is there really a big difference?.


Andy

[Reeltarded]

We need to adopt the Chinese method of dealing with Mexican drug gangs. Whatever they do, it works!



We must learn this secret, and more poison cat food, please! I use it for gopher control. I have been using Chinese toothpaste instead. Looks terrible all over the yard.. scattered with gopher bodies.. eww..

[daydreamer]

We need to adopt the Chinese method of dealing with Mexican drug gangs. Whatever they do, it works!



We must learn this secret, and more poison cat food, please! I use it for gopher control. I have been using Chinese toothpaste instead. Looks terrible all over the yard.. scattered with gopher bodies.. eww..

hahahahaha, eww. hahahaha

[Super_Reverb]

Another factor is about half of US taxpayers DON'T pay taxes due to their lower income levels. Would it surprise you to know that many of those families want MORE government spending, because they are not paying for it directly right now?

Those that have a vested interest in this country are mad as hell. Others living off government, in it's various forms, don't seem to give a rat's ass.

We have become more like a democracy where three wolves and sheep can vote on who's for dinner. That is, you don't have to pay your share of the government that you vote for, because of the "progressive" tax code.

The only solution is for citizens to put on their big boy pants and start voting responsibly. The mid terms in 2010 were good start. It doesn't have to be this way. If a government servant doesn't follow directions, EXPELL him.

cheers,

rob

[daydreamer]

In australia all the revenue from income tax pays one bill, Social Security.

Everything else is hidden taxes. They reckon' we pay 80 cents in the dollar tax, once you take all the charges and hidden BS from local council up to Canberra.

America spent alot of it's oil wealth on making itself comfortable early on. that's why we have to fight for access to it over seas, we pissed 'ours' up against the wall.

Oz is doing the same thing with Iron Ore. We dig it up and ship it off to china and call ourselves 'rich'. I call it 'stupid rich'. China has more university graduate per capita than us, by a long way, and we think we are the smart ones!

Capitalism works on two things only, giving away what is rightfully yours, and desiring what is not. If we keep it up, 'they' win it all, like a game of monopoly. I'm a worker not a capitalist, my hands provide what I need. My heart gives me the rest.

Andy

[JamesHealey]

I deal with the Chinese on a daily basis. And they seem a nice bunch! What's the problem. Oh and I'm in the UK so my lovely pound isn't doing too bad! Worth more than the dollar at least