Fender Twin Reverb

[SCTLBTN]

Hi guys. Newb here. I'm sure this is the million dollar question but I have to ask anyway. I've owned and played many different amps and I always come back to Twin Reverbs. On my third one. I absolutely adore the the sound of my Strat plugged directly into my TR. Okay, so here's my question. Is there a way, mod, pedal, ect., that I can have the pure tone coming from my TR and have it sustain and blossom WITHOUT altering the what I get from plugging directly into the amp? I'm looking for clean (no fuzz or break up, even overdrive, non compressed) pure tone that sustains for days. Any info is appreciated.

[selloutrr]

Yes...

Put the amp on a chair so you don't have to bend over.
Turn up the volume and stand infront of the amp facing the speakers as you play and ride the wave.

answer 2....
NO. everything you do will in some way alter the tone. You can however buy / build a sustain pedal and adjust your amp settings to get close to what you want.

The room will have a lot of effect on sustain.

[marcoloco961]

http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.FSK101

A friend of mine had one of these on his "Gem". He could hold a note forever at low volume, and IMO it was very transparent and didn't color his sound at all.

[Andy Le Blanc]

The strats bolt on neck and wammy might be the issue...
neck thru and a hard tail will help but it wont sound like a strat no mo...

Theres that fernandes thing, I remember an Ebow, And I think I've seen
a few guitars with a sustain thing built in...

[Firestorm]

"Sustain" pedals are typically compressors because sustain and compression are opposite sides of the same coin. The Fernandes thing is an exception because it sustains by vibrating the strings electromagnetically, but is huge and needs to mount in a humbucker-size rout. There must be something digital that can do this, but how it would sound is anybody's guess. Maybe look for an echo pedal where you can set the delay to zero and repeat to infinite. There was a Moog guitar that claimed infinite sustain. Got $6000?

[SCTLBTN]

All very good answers and I truly appreciate the responses. I guess I was hoping that there was something I could do to the electronics internally but I guess if there was I'd be rich eh.

[xtian]

There must be something digital that can do this

Yes. Electro Harmonix has this: http://www.ehx.com/products/freeze

But that's probably not the sound the OP wants. +1 on compressor pedal. +1 on playing loud!

[Super_Reverb]

To get unnaturally long sweet sustain, you need to have a borderline unstable relationship with your amp, i.e., be on the verge of feedback.

Check your amp's speaker phase to see if it's phased forward or backward (when a positively phased AC voltage is applied to amp input, does speaker move forward or backward?) I don't know how Twin Reverb is wired - probably not standard given the 1000s of units shipped. This phasing makes a big difference for me. when playing with volume.

A compressor is based on a voltage controlled amplifier (gain) concept and works conceptually like a tube rectifier in your amp (reduces gain of large amplitude signals and boosts gain of lower amplitude signals. The compressors I have used, Boss and Digitech were very tone neutral when properly setup. YMMV.


cheers,

rob

[SCTLBTN]

Controlled feedback is exactly what I'm after. That blossom effect. How does one obtain that sound from a TR?

[Reeltarded]

There is no setting on a Twin.

Majors do that with everything @ 5 and the volume @ 7. It's amazing, and just a little loud.

If you run it wide open, a Twin still doesn't get you there. You are just short of enough gain all around, without something up front.

[selloutrr]

the fernandes Ravelle's Sustain is not exactly like and EBow, it's more like a pre programed feedback..
It's always the same build to bloom and doesn't really hold a certain note.
When they first came out i bought one hoping it was in fact a full humbucker ebow. I wanted to hold a chord and sustain that note forever. but in order to make that work you would need a magnet on both the top and the bottom of the strings to excite them and create the true sustain. Even if the Revelle is in fact flipping polarity it's not a very exciting effect. Based on the thick hard to play neck, over all heavy weight, and one trick pony effect. I gave it a new home. I believe the new owner has since converted it to a traditional Les Paul wiring.

As far as an internal circuit modification. The only way is volume. or master volume mod, giving you preamp gain, but this will change your tone.
In the studio you could compress the signal and slip a long reverb just under the note and create a bit of "sustain" but to much and it'll become wet and glossy when it's mastered.

[SCTLBTN]

Love the feedback guys! Pun absolutely intended. Any ideas on how builders like Fuchs, Two Rock, Ceriatone and the likes get that almost transparent, blooming tone?

[Reeltarded]

Yeah! Different designs!

You say you want the pure Twin tone, but you don't, because you want it to do something else!

Which Twin is this? Might be a simple as a master volume addition to keep the volume down so you can push it a little harder, or a complete redo from the input to the power.. or beyond?

=0

[Roe]

I get nice sustain with a twin but I use a 25k+ mid pot and sometimes lift the tremolo pot from ground

[stompjunkie]

As far as adding sustain without changing your tone....One thing I tried recently is the Resonari sustain block. I've upgraded my strats to bigger steel blocks before, but this brass block rings out like crazy. I found that I have much more sustain and a little bit more clarity and note definition.... I usually don't go for every new thing out there, but this was worth it. The only down side is that I'm gonna want one on every strat now...

Btw..I'm not pimpin for them, I'm just a dude that tried and liked em. I'm not crazy about his website, or the videos he has on there, but the blocks are cool. www.resonari.com