Fender SuperReverb Torres Mod

[FUCHSAUDIO]

Andy - was that the after picture?
seriously, at least the one in your picture had heater wires good enough for the pre's - some use what looks like 28 gauge even for the output tubes.

No Henry, but this is .

Actually, a tolerable setup, although we've done prettier Bassmans....

What part of the circuit is that with the SS components ? Looks like it is near the phase inverter, with an IC chip and (looks like) two transistors. What does that part of the amp do?
Thanks

Solid state reverb.

[M Fowler]

Is that the Belton reverb module? Henry H. gave me his medium module to piss around with as he was done messing with it. I might just make a pedal instead of incorporating it into an amp.

[FUCHSAUDIO]

Nope. It's an IC based reverb with a regulated power supply. Most customers don't even know it's tubed. I tried the Belton modules and thought they weren't that great really. I'm surprised when everyone fawns over the Mr. Springy or Hermida verb's. I just thought they were nothing special and even with a tube audio stage, i didn't dig 'em. They are based on the PT2399, which is an over ten year old technology.

[M Fowler]

Bruce Egnator is apparently using an IC reverb rather than tube as well.

I haven't listened to Alfonse Hermida's new pedal yet but saw that http://www.tubesandmore.com has a reverb kit using the Belton so thought I would give it a try.

[FUCHSAUDIO]

Bruce Egnator is apparently using an IC reverb rather than tube as well.

I haven't listened to Alfonse Hermida's new pedal yet but saw that http://www.tubesandmore.com has a reverb kit using the Belton so thought I would give it a try.

The standard (for me at least) is the old Ampeg blue diamond reverbs from the 60's: no driver transformer and deep, warm, and lush. A good solid state reverb does that without the extra tubes, extra heat, etc. Fuchs does it, Glaswerks does, it, as do others I'm sure.

[M Fowler]

The Torres Super Reverb is out of phase.

I made a speaker cable reversing the leads, marked the cable as "do not use" so I don't get that one mixed up later, and tried it out.

The amp definitely is out of phase so I am going over where Dan Torres got it 180 out. I know I could just reverse the speaker leads at the 2 ohm jack butt.................

I am going to get this amp working properly without gutting may take a while.

[Structo]

Mark, General Guitar Gadgets have a kit using the Belton brick.

It is the Hermida design.

Here is the page with schematic and layouts.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ind ... &Itemid=26

[Cliff Schecht]

Mark, General Guitar Gadgets have a kit using the Belton brick.

It is the Hermida design.

Here is the page with schematic and layouts.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ind ... &Itemid=26

If you guys are referring to the brick I think you are, these things are SHIT! I spent a good amount of time talking with Lee Jackson about how inconsistent these little modules are. He'll order 100 or so at a time and have to return over 50 of them because they are unusable (way too noisy, inconsistent). I'm not sure if they actually fixed the issues and if they did great, but last time I talked to Lee he said that he really hates the hassle these things have caused him (he used them in a reverb pedal).

[Structo]

I have heard the same thing.
I have a forum friend who tried to build the GG reverb that uses the brick.
He is sending it to me to see if I can get it going.
He owed me a favor........I just hope the brick isn't junk.

[FUCHSAUDIO]

Mark, General Guitar Gadgets have a kit using the Belton brick.

It is the Hermida design.

Here is the page with schematic and layouts.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/ind ... &Itemid=26

If you guys are referring to the brick I think you are, these things are SHIT! I spent a good amount of time talking with Lee Jackson about how inconsistent these little modules are. He'll order 100 or so at a time and have to return over 50 of them because they are unusable (way too noisy, inconsistent). I'm not sure if they actually fixed the issues and if they did great, but last time I talked to Lee he said that he really hates the hassle these things have caused him (he used them in a reverb pedal).

Nice to know I'm not the only guy who thinks they stink....it's a 2399 inside ( an ten year old analogue delay chip with not much bandwidth). I cannot get over how many people apparently like the reverb pedalss that use this module... amazing... Compared the Jackson to a real coil reverb at NAMM, and it sounded like it was a box coming through a fog, and they eat batteries too. Whatever floats your boat.

[heisthl]

Found another amp that is really amazingly crappy inside - The Fender ToneMaster - are all of the Zinky amps this messy?

[Structo]

Holy moly!

That is a silverface on steroids!

That reminds me, we're having spaghetti tonight!

[img:400:236]https://tubeamparchive.com/files/thumbs ... h1_361.jpg[/img]

[M Fowler]

Great platform for a good amp.

Though just about any circuit would be an improvement over that mess.

[heisthl]

After shot

[M Fowler]

Henry that is just way too clean now and all that could have fit in a champ chassis. Well maybe a PR chassis

Is this similiar to the Bassman conversion you did with relay switching the gain, there are two relays it looks like. But ths is a 100 watter right?