Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Express, Liverpool, Rocket, Dirty Little Monster, etc.

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

Post Reply
Matt D
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by Matt D »

Is there any reason the Normster Reverb as implemented in the Rocket wouldn't work in the Zwreck-style amps? Thanks guys.
User avatar
M Fowler
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 am
Location: Walcott ND

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by M Fowler »

It's the same thing, Zwreck has 220k/220k voltage divider and Rocket doesn't. Older Zwreck's used softer B+ filtering but currently they are 22uf I believe in preamp stages.

I've built a number of Normster Reverb Rockets they sound great whether you decide to go octal power section or EL84's.

Also, check out rjguitar's Rockster Reverb

Mark
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Matt D
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by Matt D »

Thanks Mark! Where is that voltage divider in the circuit? I've read about it but I'm a little confused about where it fits in. I'm thinking about a Zwreck reverb or 2xEL34 rocket reverb build for a Bluesbreaker Cab i have sitting around.
User avatar
M Fowler
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 am
Location: Walcott ND

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by M Fowler »

Matt D wrote:Thanks Mark! Where is that voltage divider in the circuit? I've read about it but I'm a little confused about where it fits in. I'm thinking about a Zwreck reverb or 2xEL34 rocket reverb build for a Bluesbreaker Cab i have sitting around.
See below it's an additional 220k from PI entrance to the end of the tail resistor 47k.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Matt D
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by Matt D »

Got it! Thanks Mark.
Matt D
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by Matt D »

That EL34 version looks really perfect for a Bluesbreaker Cab. Is this the layout for the combo you made with the 350-0-350 PT? I have a MC Marshall 50 watt OT kicking around. I would probably lower the filtering to JTM 50 specs and add a GZ34. Kind of a Vox/Marshall/Wreck hybrid. Would a JTM45 Power Transformer be appropriate here?
User avatar
M Fowler
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 am
Location: Walcott ND

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by M Fowler »

Well I used the layout for board layout but after that I went my own way.

One Reverb Rocket is MC 40-18029 PT, MC 40-18001 OT with 4/8/16 taps, MC 40-18003 choke, and Hammond 1750A reverb driver.

Tone board layout like Normster's Rocket but with extra bypass caps for boosting. Pots are wired like an 18w Plexi from 18watt.com layout with MV off the treble pot. Not PPIMV or LarMar type.

Used short reverb pan used in Mesa Boogie 8AB2A1B Running 6L6's but wired for EL34's. I should build another one I have a faceplate.

By the way this amp is in a Dumble style head cab and is for sale in Nashville area by it's owner because I am building another amp to replace it with 100w instead of 50w. Currently has the large Dumble style knobs on it.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
M Fowler
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 am
Location: Walcott ND

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by M Fowler »

Don't mean to be a pest but thought you might enjoy the photos, this one is a 18w/36w switchable version four EL84's otherwise same as the EL34 version tone board and pot wiring.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
JoeCon
Posts: 632
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:06 pm
Location: Manch-Vegas NH

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by JoeCon »

Holy crap Mark!
You've built some beautiful stuff...Nice!
In theory, theory is the same as practice. In practice it's different.
User avatar
M Fowler
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 am
Location: Walcott ND

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by M Fowler »

Thanks Joe that was back when I was fast now days this old fart moves really slow but easier on the ole pocket book. :)
cap217
Posts: 182
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:07 pm

Re: Zwreck with Normster Reverb?

Post by cap217 »

M Fowler wrote:It's the same thing, Zwreck has 220k/220k voltage divider and Rocket doesn't. Older Zwreck's used softer B+ filtering but currently they are 22uf I believe in preamp stages.

I've built a number of Normster Reverb Rockets they sound great whether you decide to go octal power section or EL84's.

Also, check out rjguitar's Rockster Reverb

Mark
Any idea why they changed the filtering? I have owned both a newer Mallory 150 z wreck and now own a very early one w orange drops but if didnt realize that other things changed as well.
Post Reply