Fizzy, grainy distortion from ODS

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bluesfendermanblues
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Re: Fizzy, grainy distortion from ODS

Post by bluesfendermanblues »

LPSGME wrote:
bluesfendermanblues wrote:
LPSGME wrote:I was getting some undesirable fizz at one point.

Adding a 47PF cap to ground at the grid of the PI tube, right after the .02 input cap, vastly smoothed out the tone.

The 47PF cap also introduced a nice compressed attack and a brassy sustain to my Les Paul's bridge PU that it lacked before.
....and thereby getting rid of parasitic oscillation :-)
Quite right. No doubt. I have wires running chaotically all over the place. The cap worked similarly at several places, but the PI point sounded best.

And as i said, it didn't just take out a high end edge, it radically improved the smoothness - not so much creamy as polished and shinny.
No, because the cutoff frequency is around 10 kHz (1Mohm/47pf)...way out of the guitar speakers range. I haven't tried a 47pf on PI input, but I usually put a 10pf across the OD input, which has the same effect for me. :-)
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Re: Fizzy, grainy distortion from ODS

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jakehop wrote:Just for kicks, I placed two 300pF from the anodes to the gates of both halves of the OD-tubes, as I see on some of the amps Howard made - no difference. Shouldn't that kill the oscillation?
Only if the OD tube is the source of the PO. You need to locate the source.

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Re: Fizzy, grainy distortion from ODS

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bluesfendermanblues wrote:
LPSGME wrote:
bluesfendermanblues wrote: ....and thereby getting rid of parasitic oscillation :-)
Quite right. No doubt. I have wires running chaotically all over the place. The cap worked similarly at several places, but the PI point sounded best.

And as i said, it didn't just take out a high end edge, it radically improved the smoothness - not so much creamy as polished and shinny.
No, because the cutoff frequency is around 10 kHz (1Mohm/47pf)...way out of the guitar speakers range. I haven't tried a 47pf on PI input, but I usually put a 10pf across the OD input, which has the same effect for me. :-)
I didn't try any other cap values. I just grabbed what was handy and it seemed to work. The change was similar when inserted at various points along the signal path - except when closing my eyes and concentrating. Then the PI point sounded slightly better to me.

In any case it took the sound to a superior level that I hadn't heard before. I was also amazed that now my d'lator further compresses and improves whereas it didn't before.
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