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Re: primary

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ampmike wrote:Could the output primarys be hooked up wrong,The red went to the power switch and the brown and blue went to the power tubes.
Mikey, your color scheme for the OT primaries is correct. We proved this when you pulled the tubes and measured the B+ at the power supply and at each of the plate pins on the power tube sockets.

As we discussed, you need to take voltages next in the preamp, at each and every location, match that location to the specific point on the schematic, and record the value. Then we stand back and compare our assumptions to your findings. Anything less, and you will second guess yourself and succumb to temptation to make changes randomly. I suspect you have a wrong value such as 47R when you meant 470k, or a bad ground connection. A wrong (low) value in the right location could bleed all your signal down, so in theory the amp is built correctly, just that you might be bleeding all your amplified signal down.

Go back with your multimeter and take voltages at each and every location, and mark up the schematic. This exercise will likely reveal the problem.

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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Might be smart to treat this like it has never had power applied...

No tubes in check power transformer primary and all secondary AC voltages
Add rectifier tube and check power supply DC voltages at all nodes and all tube socket plate pins
Add power tubes and check plate, G1, G2, and cathode voltages
Add preamp tubes and check plate, grid and cathode voltages
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Martin,

I had a phone call with Mikey last week and we went through the first two steps of the sequence you showed above ^^^. Voltages have not been taken in the rest of the amp. I wanted to be sure that the most basic assumptions were validated before moving on.
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Thanks,ill go through it carefully on Monday,I get to impatient sometimes.
I'll need to slow it down a bit.I should be posting something shortly,thanks guys,mikey
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Mess

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Well guys I have to confess that this amp was a mess.Our good friend Mark is rebuilding the amp.I still want to complete the thread by posting some sound clips.im going to make a nice head cab and 2x12 to match.thanks Mark,I'm going to enjoy this thing I'm gettin excited!mikey :D
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Mikey your 5E3 is done and I'm burning it in. Played it for 1/2 hour.

I did check some voltages but will write down voltage readings tomorrow.

Mikey is using the Mercury Magnetic Axion OT FTDO-59M has both 5k/8 ohm secondary for 6L6 and 8k/8 ohm for 6v6.

He is running 6L6GC power tubes, GZ34 recto, and two 12AX7's.

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Mark Fowler is awesome!

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Mark is a gentleman and a scholar ,he also walked me through a master volume in my Liverpool today and it sounds awesome,beautiful creamy sustain at a manageable vol.I had a blast playing that amp today.It sat unfinished for 6 months. :D I have vowed to complete these build threads with pics and some sound clips.A couple more amps to fix and I'm going to start the Alexander build and a brown Suger kit for my daughters boyfriend.Thank you to all you guys in this thread even know I punked out on this 6l6 build I still learned more from the experience.So I thank you all for your help and when I get the amp back ill let you all hear it,Mikey
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Mikey and guys here is the voltage chart to look over.

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Thanks Mark,looks good to me.i appreciate you doing all this,I got something I worked on today Ill be sending your way :wink:
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Hey! What!?
Signatures have a 255 character limit that I could abuse, but I am not Cecil B. DeMille.
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Reeltarded wrote:Hey! What!?
Don't know. :)
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You Too

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Dont worry Miles ,I got somethin for you too!
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5e3 6L6

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Hey Guys,Got to bring this thread up to date,Mark F rebuild and did a extraordinary job on this amp.Its alive and kicken.Tons of headroom and much more power than the feel of the 5e3.The only thing I would like to ajust for my playing is its a shade to bassy.Just a hair dark and I would like to add a bit more treble.Its got a great sound cranked,just needs that little tweek.I want to get a clip or two on here to show this thing off.Im working on a cab next but having a fun weekend playing with this badboy!Mark Fowler is the Man!!!!Mikey
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Maybe a bright cap, even a little one.. 100p? Has one? No?

Want to hear it!
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Re: 5x3 6L6 deluxe

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Speaker?

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