adat tape

[Andy Le Blanc]

anybody got a quick resource for

quantegy 489DM

MAXELL XR-S

or equivelents?

[selloutrr]

guitar center might to carry it.

it's been almost 10 years since ADAT's

Do you know who had the only artist to have a hit album recorded on ADAT was? I'll give you two clues. It's a she, and her drummer now plays in the Foo Fighters.

[selloutrr]

www.tapeonline.com/adat

http://www.thefind.com/instruments/info-adat-tape

http://shop.ebay.com/items/adat%20tapes?_dmd=1&_sop=12

[jmohr58]

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't these the Dat Tapes that look kind of like a minuture version of a VHS tape?
If they are, I think I have some maybe 8 to 10 that I have no use for,
I just have to find them. And you can have them for the cost of the shipping if I do.
If I find them I will PM you on the matter.
Jerry

[Andy Le Blanc]

thank you, I found a used machine cheap, just needs the right tape

the digital of the new sucks... and Im cheap

No time to invest playing with software either.

this thing needs 16 wires and I can dump the mix down into anything.

5 min from mix down to web, standard post compression and limit for the format
and that's it.... with mp3 the quality is so low any way... its not worth the
investment of time or $$$ putting any thing into software.

You just can't fake a good room.... or compensate for it with software

I'd rather find a record lathe than use a computer, WHAT A NERD:lol:

[selloutrr]

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't these the Dat Tapes that look kind of like a minuture version of a VHS tape?
If they are, I think I have some maybe 8 to 10 that I have no use for,
I just have to find them. And you can have them for the cost of the shipping if I do.
If I find them I will PM you on the matter.
Jerry

ADAT tapes are the same size as a standard VHS tape. they use and industrial stength tape. similiar to that used in commercial VHS rentals, like you used to rent at the store.

The small sized VHS looking tapes are DAT tapes. used to archive, burn down, or before digital what you would call your Master DAT which would to a mastering house or CD duplication.

Alanis Morissette. has the only album to be recorded on ADAT to become a hit record. Keep in mind the out board gear getting to the ADAT was pro in every way.

You should consider switching up to a small TDM protools rig. it's better bandwidth then ADAT, you don't have to format tape in real time, and their is no cost for tape. You can edit, and burn MP3 / CD in the field.
Just a suggestion, I off loaded my ADAT after then started acting up, i had 3 of them sinked with external remote, the middle one (9-16) desided to eat the tape on eject, not exactly something i was able to recover. 1500hrs seemed to be about the max life for the transport mechanism.

[jmohr58]

ADAT tapes are the same size as a standard VHS tape. they use and industrial stength tape. similiar to that used in commercial VHS rentals, like you used to rent at the store.

The small sized VHS looking tapes are DAT tapes. used to archive, burn down, or before digital what you would call your Master DAT which would to a mastering house or CD duplication.

Thank you Selloutrr for the clarification.
I then have some Dat tapes somewhere in a box and if I can find them and someone would like them, they are available for the cost of shipping.
PM me if so and I will try to find them.
Jerry

[stelligan]

Go to eBay for Ampex or Quantegy. Those HHb things readily available at Musician's Friend are a nightmare. I still use my Adat for live recording. Good rehearsal tool, too.

[Reeltarded]

I have 9 machines in various states. What's one worth? From 1200 to 3000 or so hours each. It's NOT a viable recording medium, in my opinion. I only used them because I had to use them for certain processes.

The tapes have a workable shelf life around the same as frozen fish. If you think what you have recorded is worth keeping, you need to get it on a safety asap. Never consider it as a long-term storage. It will let you down. More maintenence than any other machine, ever. We used to keep them unscrewed in the racks with the tops loose so we could clean the heads every tape change, and god forbid you get a bad batch of tapes. Shed like a dog.

There are computer solutions with better sound for around $300-$400 out the door with a program that does more than record. No, really. A new drive costs less than 10 hours of tape, and you could get over 100 hours with that drive @ 8 tracks, and higher sample rates... and the drive doesn't shed.

[Andy Le Blanc]

your right of course...

But what the heck, it is what it is, an intermediate device thats cheap at the moment
It fills a short time need and looks to be useful for a little while.
The same function with new gear seems a waste... it has to be cheap

You watch, murphy's law will have me bemoaning the choice, or not... fun fun fun

[selloutrr]

You can buy used ADAT machines all day for $25-$100 depending on hours and sample rate. It'll cost about as much to recycle it as E-waste when it stops working.

I too hated and fought the change to digital but even I gave in. Digital has come a long way since the early push that came after ADAT.

[Reeltarded]

Ok.. I would worry that someone would lose anything important, or get deeper than they need to..

Just watching out for you, hopefully! Messy medium!

I like a console, and digital. ITB. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, like the pictures of R-121s slammed to the grille of a Marshall back when they came out... next thing you know, the internet says to slam a 121 to the grille. Sounds better at least 6"-8" back.

[selloutrr]

Ok.. I would worry that someone would lose anything important, or get deeper than they need to..

Just watching out for you, hopefully! Messy medium!

I like a console, and digital. ITB. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, like the pictures of R-121s slammed to the grille of a Marshall back when they came out... next thing you know, the internet says to slam a 121 to the grille. Sounds better at least 6"-8" back.

The trick to any ribbon mic loading the room and staying at 70-90% of max SPL. I really liked the R-121 as a kick drum mic. It sounded great that "ONE TIME" but thanks to digital we sampled it and it made a killer track.

The reason the ribbon gets grill love is due to the need to align capsules during multiple micing setups. exp. during A/B testing. It's not uncommon to run the 121, 421, u87, sm57, and 409. then blend, group, and send to tape. It's less of a need to grill love now that we can track 96+ channels at a time into protools , we have reamping DI boxes and the ability to time align. As nice as the R-121 sounds (It's a go to mic!) at the end of the day in a 120+ channel mix it all blends.

[Reeltarded]

121s are for percussion, or fok drum mics here. I have used them in a likeable way on a decca tree over a small section.. but..

I do like ribbons, but really only 44s or 77x.

I am a 47, 48, 67/87 guy. 121s sound like fast 57s, and a tad more.. umm.. sterile. I don't use more than one close mic.

It's VERY uncommon for me to put a 421 with anything, except the accessories in the mic cabinet.

[rdjones]

Several eBay sellers.

The ADAT machines will use any SVHS "Super VHS" tape, not just those listed by Alesis as ADAT certified.

If you're compelled to use ADAT or need to maintain the capability, you might look into the M20, or the Studer V8 version.
It's a much better machine both in sound quality and operational reliability.
All the earlier ADATs used an ancient rubber idler tire system to drive the feed and takeup reels, the M20 has a much more reliable direct drive setup.

rd