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tele caster
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I'm in no way a conservative, but bama is a whole other pile. Mit would have been worse in my opinion. Some of you will enjoy the dressing down your pres gets in the link.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/irish-p ... tury-award
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sepulchre wrote:
Structo wrote:
I just hope that all these scandals that the current administration is involved with get fully investigated and the people responsible are brought to justice, no matter who it is.
That would have to happen before the administration leaves office. Otherwise they will simply pass a law that they can not be prosecuted for anything they did while in office. It's a common practice.
And you can go back to the last administration, then the one before that, and the one before that, and ... you get the picture.

Just after mid January 2001 Clinton signed off enough pardons to wear his fingers down to the nub. Stopped just short of giving Charlie Manson the jailhouse key. Needless to say I was not pleased. 2009 Bush Jr. did the same but without much press coverage.
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Firestorm wrote:Political jobs should be low paying and unpleasant (like they were in the beginning) so only the truly civic minded will take them. They say we can't do that or we won't attract top talent. Sorry - these days, we're not getting any talent at all.
Though if you make it so that only the wealthy can afford to take the job ...
Of course right now you have to be wealthy (or please the wealthy) to GET the job.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Only registered voters can donate to the races in the districts in which they live and work (so, up to 2 - principal residence, principal place of biz).
Registered voters may donate a like amount to any party(s) running a race in those districts, which may be used only in those districts (subject to OTA TV footprints).
Violation of these rules, or committing voter fraud (including candidate petition fraud) is Capital Treason.

Limits on donations may be established.
FNC is to be considered an arm of the Republican Party
MSNBC is to be considered an arm of the Democratic Party
Politicking from the pulpit - even urging congregants to vote - is an instant loss of tax-exempt status. Take off your vestments and go off church property if you want to have your say - divest yourself of the trappings of holy authority.

Need a way to get rid of Citizens United and so-called 'issue ads'.
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One term and your done.
I like the jury selection idea. All expenses paid plus you're normal income for 2 years. then you go back to you're lifes' work. At least a High School education required. (for whatever that's worth!)
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You guys realize there is only one way to get the things done you all are talkin bout?You really think this guys are just gonna do the right thing?and give up all that power without a fight?
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The problem with a one term limit is that four years is probably not enough time to improve things but you can certainly make things worse.

The latest from our master is the sweeping climate change executive orders that will affect current and future coal fired power generating plants.
Over 40% of the country gets power from coal.

Didn't Obama say during his first term campaign that he was going to make it so difficult that rates would skyrocket and he would put the coal industry out of business?

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Obama-2008-El ... /id/435098
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Structo wrote:The problem with a one term limit is that four years is probably not enough time to improve things but you can certainly make things worse.

The latest from our master is the sweeping climate change executive orders that will affect current and future coal fired power generating plants.
Over 40% of the country gets power from coal.

Didn't Obama say during his first term campaign that he was going to make it so difficult that rates would skyrocket and he would put the coal industry out of business?

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Obama-2008-El ... /id/435098

Four years is plenty of time to decommission existing laws. That is the way forward ..... not new legislation, but ending existing legislation put into place by lobbyists and corrupt politicians. Lets start by decommissioning every perk and benefit entitled to politicians and bureaucrats ...... retroactively.
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Structo wrote:The latest from our master is the sweeping climate change executive orders that will affect current and future coal fired power generating plants. Over 40% of the country gets power from coal.

Didn't Obama say during his first term campaign that he was going to make it so difficult that rates would skyrocket and he would put the coal industry out of business?


I do remember clearly candidate Obama extolling the virtues of "clean coal." I guess his advisors have finally figured out after 5 years, coal ain't clean. Can't sell us that dog. Can't even give it away.

OTOH there's LOTS of cheap gas as the fracking habit takes over the country. We're good to go unless/until the executives sell it all to China, leaving our future selves & offspring with nothing.

Similar with Canadian tar sand oil, but a little different. The tar crude that's coming from Alberta now has many strikes against it. You don't get much gasoline or diesel/fueloil/bunker2 from that crap. But you do get bunker 4 and 6, which aren't used anymore in the USA. Those are very dense tar like fuels that emit clouds of black stinky smoke when burned. #6 won't even flow at temps below 120F. Bunker 6 was used for institutional power plants: schools, hospitals, prisons, factories. No more. So all that tar sand oil is going to where? China, where it's OK to pollute all you want. And the only profit will be made by oil company executives. Let Canada have all of it - they can ship it out of Vancouver - and when they have a spill the USA will be happy to send clean up crews to help.

It was amusing this morning, hearing Senator Turtle Face emitting his same old song. If coal mining stopped in Kentucky, the state would have to rely on it's #1 cash crop, which happens at the moment to be illegal. Wouldn't it be a hoot to see McConnell's replacement ride to office on a tidal wave of hemp oil.
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Re: Not to be political

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As long as the American people are stupid enough to elect what the media shoves down there throat we are doomed.

Ron Paul absolutely destroyed the other candidates in debates.When the media showed clips of it they misconstrued it and tried to make him look foolish.

Ron Paul had about 15% Supporrt at the begining of the election more than some of the other candidates.Yet the media would hardly mention his name.

The average person in this country is lazy, stupid and barely educated.You really think we can count on these people turn it around with elections?
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