Stirs Neural pot

[dorrisant]

Will do. I did notice that some of them come with the cab IRs. With the tone models I have played with so far I was able to disable the cab. I think that a lot of the models available were amp and cab together, and cannot be separated.

I don't understand why anyone would model anything of real value with a cab. I can understand using the whole rig as a model if you were going to virtually take you rig to the gig, but if you are trying to pass along an amp model it should be just the amp. (Otherwise, it is like stuffing a whole sentence between parentheses.)

I'll definitely check on it this weekend and post results.

Btw, my ToneX One will be here tomorrow.

[TUBEDUDE]

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Sorry Miles, I couldn't resist.

[Reeltarded]

I played Liverpool two hours yesterday. Ok. So, Keep some tube amps.

WBacer Dumble has 4 captures w/o cabs.. that amp is very good for PAF and strats. Rabea SLO destroys factory SLO. Plexis are all anemic. Voxes overcooked. We are getting there slowly.

Life got more complicated. That's all that really happened. Martin told a funny joke. Good times.

[dorrisant]

If you've ever bought anything from IK, you may have "jam points". I applied mine for a $54 discount buying the ToneX One directly through them.

I need you to do me a favor, please.

Disable cabs and play ToneX through effect return to power and real cab. Do you have any of the add-on amp packs? I want to know if global cancelling kills all cabs.

This is a real problem for these devices overall. If the cabs can't be killed the amps are useless to me.

Pic is from the QS Guide...

Also, the ToneX Pedal works the same.

This depends on if the amp is captured by itself or with effects or cabs. Most, if not all of the Max version of the software (free with the pedal (even used)) have them separated. I haven't looked through all to verify.

The models from the ToneNet... Some a very good. Others could have been captured better, like excluding the pedals or cab. Some of these are modeled directly from a QuadCore.

But this thing (One) is ridiculous. You only get the SE version of the software, but to tell you the truth, the out of the box setup is hard to stop playing. It is a Super on ch1 and "Just800" on ch2. Since I already have the Max software, I'll load it up with some of the premium stuff.

Check out the "Premium Tone Modes" list below. You can see if they have the cabs with them or not.
I have played a lot of the models and find them all very realistic, even the ones I don't like sound just like the ones I don't like.

Next I will capture some of my stuff. Also, I have to look at the file type here and see if it is portable. Anyone else know?

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I need to borrow everyone's ten best amps.

[WhopperPlate]

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Sorry Miles, I couldn't resist.

Marry that woman

[stelligan]

Got a Tonex pedal recently. Impressed thus far...

[Reeltarded]

I have incredible news after months with all units and versions. New topic.

[dorrisant]

I don't know if I mentioned this... If you buy a ToneX Pedal or ToneX One on the used market: Email IK Multimedia the model and serial number. You will get a new registration number in a day or two. This will get you the free appropriate software for your used hardware. Example: I bought my ToneX Pedal used on Reverb. Two days later I was scrolling through somewhere around 1600 amps to choose from. Totally worth it.

[xtian]

I got the ToneX One. Sounds good out of the box. But software installation was a painful hurdle. Register, download product manager, download editor...each step a PITA. Anyway, I'd love to try one or two presets that are making you go, WOW.

[dorrisant]

This is my rig at the moment, along with some ATH-M50s.

I'll look at my laptop and see... But do try what you have with the software. SE has a lot less than MAX, but there are still hundreds of amps there. Also, the ToneNET displays a top 10 most popular when you push a certain button... Look for that. I got the John Mayer pack from there. I'm pretty sure it always sits in the #1 spot. Nice to have. I think the Dumbles came with the MAX software. Get that if you can and/or when you think it's worth it. Maybe find a Pedal and get it free.

[Reeltarded]

I got the ToneX One. Sounds good out of the box. But software installation was a painful hurdle. Register, download product manager, download editor...each step a PITA. Anyway, I'd love to try one or two presets that are making you go, WOW.

Load any balanced sounding 5150 without a pedal. The first one with bass extension will do. Set gain in the 0.3-0.7 range and match the volume. Twiddle with the mids then the highs. Monster clean. Turn the gain up into the 2-3 range and set your volume loud enough to just start to take off when you fret a low G or C. Back out of the gain as much as you can stand and play that for a few minutes until you get a feel for what it does.

The ODS legends pack is annoyingly good. The only thing I don't have right now is Metal Gems. At $21 on sale with stupid StripperBucks, I am about to have another 100+ really great choices. The 5150 amps captured and degained prove some amazing things about that circuit. I had one of those very early 100w models that wouldn't quite fly this way because of the drive setting being a little anemic below 5-6 but this is how to do it! Reality caught up to us in a weird flanking attack. lol

Dood. We are getting a full compliment of effects!

[Reeltarded]

I have settled on three built clean sounds that I always set one for the A slot per bank, then the B is a version of an amp with no cabinet in the capture, and the C is either a gainier version of that or the version of it with the cab removed.

Removing cabs virtually isn't great but ignoring that and going with the sound as an overtly fat singing version of itself is AWESOME. The ODS legends ODS Lead degained with the cab removed THUNKS like hitting a cubic mile of wood with a battleship. I was up until 11am making thubby noises and laughing.



OMG let's get that Herbert installed!

[xtian]

I have the ToneX One connected to my Mac via USB, and using TONEX desktop app. I'm confused by the Gain and Volume controls in the amp models I see on screen, versus the Vol/Gain knob on the actual pedal, which knob's action is not reflected on screen. The app and hardware seem to be independent. At first, I was getting WAY too much gain on all the models, even the clean ones, and wondering WTH?

[Reeltarded]

All units are set at +6db input trim out of the box. I set it to 0 which is close enough to straight up on the TREBLE control if you hold down the shift led/button beyond 6 seconds.

That mode is global VOLUME (main knob) and MID knob is cab enable/defeat, BASS is footswitching mode select, two models or stomp mode..


I forget which preset was SO insane out of the box, but one was wild and I should have taken notes. Insane+++ heh

I do not care for the librarian interface in the stand alone program. There should be a list pane for the device and a list pane for the models and presets. I made suggestions and there is a new interface they said I would be happier with in next firmware. Did you see what's coming?

If you need any help finding anything, just ask. I spent a couple hours clicking and holding buttons until I stopped making mistakes.