Room size and sound quality.

[cbass]

Also do I fasten the panels to the walls what about ceiling?

Do you think I could use carpet instead of fabric to wrap them?

[selloutrr]

Truckstop bathrooms sound awful, anyhow.

hah

One on I-40 sounds great as long as the third stall has been flushed

[cbass]

I'm at least 2 hours from any kinda interstate
.We don't have fancy truckstops with good soundin bathrooms here

[NickC]

Also do I fasten the panels to the walls what about ceiling?

Do you think I could use carpet instead of fabric to wrap them?

Here is a build guide I put on the net last year. Make sure you look at the pictures, click on the "Photo Album" tab next to the Home tab (each one worth a thousand words).

http://nickcrosby.net/Studio/

Negative on the carpet. Worthless from an audio point-of-view. And an allergy disaster (if you or yours are prone to allergies).

My personal studio is not an ideal shape/size. It is 12' wide, and 20' long and 7' high (ouch, really bad). So I built 12 @ 2'x4' gobo panels. I made 4 @ 1' x 1' x 4' bundles (no framing, just fabric wrapped/sealed rock wool) for the boundary planes of ceiling to long-side walls. I have 4 @ 2' wide x7' high x8" thick bass-traps at 45 degree angle tucked into each corner.

I do not have any permanently fixed. They are all movable (the corner traps are wedged with shims, like you'd use to shim a door frame, to hold 'em in place, though the picture on my Build Guide page show an earlier prototype not quite 7' high). The ceiling/side-wall bundles are hung on a simple frame of 1"x pine stock, suspended from the ceiling by hooks and chain. I tried several positions (doing listening tests) before settling on where they are now. I can easily take all of it with me if/when I move.

The gobo panels I made vary in thickness from 6" to 8". You don't want to go less than 4" if using rock wool.

The Corning 703 stuff is fantastic; albeit hard to come buy for typical consumers at the home improvement stores. Have to find a distributor that services contractors. It is much more expensive than rock wool. However, those panels are thinner, require less framing (for support/installation), and they DO NOT have to be encased in fabric to control particles getting into the air (though many folks do wrap it in fabric for cosmetic reasons).

I recommend treating the corners first. See how that sounds. If you need more, you can always knock together a bunch of gobo panels in a couple of hours; add as needed.

Hope this helps.

[cbass]

Thanks Nick.I have a ton of canvas drop clothes they are pretty thick though.Hmm maybe I can find a contractor that will know where to order the 703

[NickC]

Thanks Nick.I have a ton of canvas drop clothes they are pretty thick though.Hmm maybe I can find a contractor that will know where to order the 703

Canvas drop cloths should work fine.

The OC 703 is excellent, state of the art. It is thinner, but does as well as 3-to-4 times as much thickness of rock wool. In other words, a 2" thick 703 panel is as good, or better, than 4" to 6" of rockwool. OC 703 also comes in wider panels ..... IIRC is available in 4 foot wide panels ..... which is even better for corner bass-traps when installed at a 45 degree angle to the corner. The OC 703 is also great for flying a few inches from the ceiling (if you have sufficient ceiling height). It works best when there is at least a few inches of null-space between the panel and the wall/ceiling being treated. Since the OC 703 does as much work as rock wool, at a much thinner thickness, it is ideal for sound control where space is limited.

[cbass]

I've got three different OC distributors I can check.So can I get away witht h 1" stuff or do I need to go 2".

Hell I may just use it to block off the garage door and move my stuff back to the garage.Its surrounded by brick wich keeps in sound really well.But the sound blasts through the door even though I insuladted with styrofoam and have thick blankets covering it.

[NickC]

I've got three different OC distributors I can check.So can I get away witht h 1" stuff or do I need to go 2".

Hell I may just use it to block off the garage door and move my stuff back to the garage.Its surrounded by brick wich keeps in sound really well.But the sound blasts through the door even though I insuladted with styrofoam and have thick blankets covering it.

I would go either 2" or 4" thickness OC 703. For overhead cloud application (hung on 1-by pine frame) I'd use 2". For gobo's and corner bass traps I'd go 4" thickness.

For blocking sound escaping the garage ..... overlapping sheetrock about 3-or-more layers (5/8" or 3/4") is reasonably effective for not much money. Stagger the layers so seams are sealed by subsequent layer. Then put in the gobo absorption panels as needed.

My studio has 5 layers (3 interior side, null space, 2 exterior side) on two walls, cinder-block with interspersed gobo panels on the other two walls. T&G pine ceiling with eyelets lagged in and hooks for suspending cloud gobo(s) as needed (mixing).

[cbass]

I want to still be able to use my garge door when I need to.
The brick veener on the outside walls stops the sound pretty good. but the door is where it all escapes.
Guess I want it all huh.

What I need to do is move my ass back out in the country then I can play as loud as I want but rent is free here(well not free I work it off)and gas was killing us.I live in neighborhood with doctors and bankers and the college dean.They all drive lexus' and mercedes.I drive an 88 GMC.Guess who doesnt fit in.They give me dirty looks when I walk out to the truck with a beer.

[Teleguy61]

They give me dirty looks when I walk out to the truck with a beer.

Jealousy can be an ugly thing to deal with in your neighbors.

[Reeltarded]

Walk out to the beer with a truck wearing boots, briefs, and a tool belt.

[cbass]

Its not uncommon for me to do yardwork with nothin on but my boxers and a beer