Sad Day in Boston

[Leo_Gnardo]

I view drones as the evolution of war. They are a cost effective substitute to some cockamamie, protracted (and unwinnable) ground war or large scale/permanent occupations.

What happens when they start showing up within our borders (USA)?

One went zipping over my house a couple years ago, at dusk early in December. Blinking orange light and noiseless. No other "normal" nav lights. Didn't take it for a UFO so I called someone who knows someone - and back came the answer, "well you have an Air Force base only 12 miles away, they're probably testing some sort of drone." The direction my little blinkin buddy was taking was straight toward the AFB.

All sorts of surveillance drones being developed now, down to the size of a bird and soon enough, a bug. How you gonna like it when some alphabet soup agency is peering through your windows nevermind watching you doing whatever outdoors. No I haven't been hanging out with tsutt... this sort of thing has been reported as upcoming technology in Scientific American as well as other news sources since the new millenium began.

FWIW I've also seen cruise missiles thru the window of the tour bus whilst zipping thru southern California desert highway near 29 Palms. It is the Navy test area after all. You gotta pay attention, they're quick but unmistakeable - just like Tom's photo above.

Escalation is the price of 7 billion people all trying to fit where 1 billion should be.

Roger THAT. But let's all try to get along anyway. Put down the guns n bombs and let's dig the music & food.

[ToneMerc]

I view drones as the evolution of war. They are a cost effective substitute to some cockamamie, protracted (and unwinnable) ground war or large scale/permanent occupations.

For every terrorist you kill, two more start swinging from the monkey bars to replace that one. Drones are the remote scalpel that cuts out the cancer where it starts, and hopefully before it spreads. Neat and clean. Yes, there is ALWAYS collateral damage. Such is the price when humans insist on killing each other tit for tat, over what? F*cking religious dogma and/or some stupid, psychotic ideal that is always about control and oppression of others.

Escalation is the price of 7 billion people all trying to fit where 1 billion should be.

If you had heard me speak before, you would have heard " the future of warfare is UAV's, Special Operations forces and littoral ships and boats"

TM

[Reeltarded]

Technology will surely see the end of us.

[ToneMerc]

Find them, interrogate them as roughly as necessary, if they are citizens strip them of their citizenship and summarily execute them.

It's a dirty, complex game, but people want a nun to do a whore's job.

TM

[Colossal]

What happens when they start showing up within our borders (USA)

Why worry about such things? I think it's an inevitability. Something will come along to force that too. Totally out of any of our control anyway. NSA's been orbiting Keyhole sats that can read license plates for many more years than drones have been flying. There's no stopping any of it, we don't live in the same sleepy country, taking everything for granted as we have for the last 50 years. Despite how everyone acts, no one is entitled to a goddamn thing. Life is just random and we are totally lucky to be sucking in free air.

As utterly messed up as Washington is, at the end of the day, I'd still rather be here than most anywhere else. I am but a simple taxpayer. Nothing and no one is permanent. Life's too short for clinging to what should be. Just ask everyone everywhere who's died for no good reason at all. Just a big empty hole and a lot of unbalanced Karma. I'm grateful for what freedoms we do have. Lot of people paid in full for that freedom yesterday

Roger THAT. But let's all try to get along anyway. Put down the guns n bombs and let's dig the music & food.

I couldn't agree more

[Reeltarded]

It's a dirty, complex game, but people want a nun to do a whore's job.

TM

Too many people without a real inderstanding making decisions in every realm. Drive you crazy trying to sort it.

[Structo]

Terrorism is easy.
To perpetrate violence on an unsuspecting public is about easy as it gets.
But, thankfully we have been spared mostly when compared to other parts of the world.

But how far do we go as far as giving up our freedom in order to be safe?
There is the old saw, "If you don't have anything to hide then......"

Sure, but when do we have an expectation of privacy?
Only when we are in our homes?
Well they can look through walls with infrared and other tools which many of the UAV's carry.

It is getting very Orwellian and will continue to do so.
Who are the masters and who are the puppets?

I tend to lean towards the conservative/ libertarian but I think we have very little power as a people anymore.

Have you guys seen the new Utah NSA Data Center?

Of course they say they won't spy on us with it....

A $1 Billion data center that will hold an estimated 5 Zettabytes of data.
A Zettabyte is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Bytes!

To put this into perspective, just one zettabyte is the equivalent of about 62 billion stacked iPhones 5's-- that stretches past the moon.
Now multiply that by five....

Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/04/12/ ... d-privacy/

How much are we willing to give up to be safe?

[amplifiednation]

I was two blocks from the explosions, watching a whole bunch of really happy people run the race. Both of the blasts happened right in front of us. It was mayhem in Boston. I'm still a bit shaken up, it was not a fun experience. Those people were just normal families there for the right reasons. It is a tragedy.

[Reeltarded]

Until we are willing to do all the things we will do none of the things. DHS and TSA are most expensive jokes. If we wanted to plot and succeed it wouldn't be hard. Look at the simple devices used to create mayhem on small levels.

Agencies don't stop terrorists; people do. Individual vigils. I keep both eyes open and my back to the corner.

[Colossal]

I keep both eyes open and my back to the corner.

Exactly.

Chance favors the prepared mind.
- Louis Pasteur

The first step in avoiding a trap is knowing of its existence
- Sun Tzu

[Structo]

I keep both eyes open and my back to the corner.

Same here.

My wife used to ask me why I would sit in a restaurant always facing the door.

She doesn't ask that question anymore.

[amplifiednation]

My wife always asks why I won't wear flip flops or sandals into the city. I tell her because if I get in a fight I want to be prepared. She thinks I'm crazy (since I never get in fights!) but now I think she understands you never know whats gonna happen.

Anyway this is a crazy day here! The suspect is at large!!!

[cbass]

I keep both eyes open and my back to the corner.

Same here.

My wife used to ask me why I would sit in a restaurant always facing the door.

She doesn't ask that question anymore.

Wow i always do stuff like that too even before terrorism.I'm not sure why.
I think it stems from when I was a little kid my brother would make me sleep closest to the window and tell me when the intruders come in they'll kill you first and I'll have time to get away

Glad to hear your ok Taylor I thought about tou when I heard the news.

Have they killed both those SOB's yet?

[Colossal]

My wife always asks why I won't wear flip flops or sandals into the city. I tell her because if I get in a fight I want to be prepared. She thinks I'm crazy (since I never get in fights!) but now I think she understands you never know whats gonna happen.

Anyway this is a crazy day here! The suspect is at large!!!

Glad to hear you and yours are ok Taylor. I'm sure that was an eye-opening and very sobering experience to say the least.

I hear they got one of those @$$holes who did this and have another cornered. I hope they put a bullet in him too and that he suffers greatly. I hope it brings some peace and closure to those who lost, but I know it won't make anyone whole.

[Structo]

Actually I hope they catch #2 alive because we need to know if this is isolated or a larger conspiracy.

Hell, waterboard him (since that is OK now...) and get the info we need and then tie him to a stake, make a bomb with nails and shit in it, set it off about 25 feet from him and let him bleed out.

Or just give each of the victims a baseball bat and let'em go at him, but not too quickly.