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tubetek wrote:+1 for about anything from Dylan's Blood On The Tracks
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She was workin in a topless place
And I stopped in for a beer.
I just kept lookin at the sight of her face
in the spark lights so clear.
And later on, when the crowd thined down
I was just about to do the same
She was standin there, at the back of my chair,
sayin' honey don't I know your name?
I muttered somethin' underneath my breath
she studied the lines on my face
I must admit I felt a little uneasy as she bent down and tied the laces
of my shoes
Tangled up in blue
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deiseldave wrote: ... Be ____ cause, ____ he _____ was ______ Captain ______ Kirk !!
AND Denny Crane!! How many people have created TWO iconic roles on TV in a lifetime 8)
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deiseldave wrote:
CaseyJones wrote:I'll venture that it depends on who sings the lyric.

The Beatles can sing, "yeah, yeah, yeah" and it's more meaningful than if I sing it.

Hendrix can say, "Yeah, baby" and it's cool 'cuz he was Jimi. Bootsy Collins can say, "Yeah, baby" just about every other phrase. It's cool 'cuz it's Bootsy.

Me, the only time I get away with "Yeah, baby" is when the penny slots pay out on the senior bus trip to the casino. :lol:
Interesting concept. So, a pathetic lyric can be redeemed if it is puked up by a super hero. It guess it makes sense. You know, come to think about it, I did forgive William Shatner for singing (or reciting) “Lucy in the sky” and “Rocket Man”. Why ?, Be ____ cause, ____ he _____ was ______ Captain ______ Kirk !!
If any rockers were to deserve lyrical forgiveness, it would certainly have to be the Beatles and Hendrix. Hell, they are practically the Leo and Les of classic rock.
We’re actually lucky Hendrix wasn’t on a lyrical level with someone like Dylan. That would be a Zappa-like creature that the mainstream could not ignore (the way the did Frank), and there would just be no point in anybody else ever creating another song. Ever !!
Besides, I suspect Hendrix was aware that his lyric writing was not his greatest skill, and that is cool. Nobody’s perfect. Maybe that is why he looked up to Dylan so much.
I will have to contemplate the “lyrical forgiveness for heros” concept some more. But, so far, I think I like it. Maybe I’ll adopt it, and then, declare amnesty for a large portion of songwriters that I have kept detained in my mind’s doo-doo filled dungeons, for their hackneyed lines.
Then, I can fill the dungeons with that much more stinky, toxic, and flammable doo-doo for the likes of real evil-doers, like Kip Michaels and Bret Winger.
:twisted:
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Shatner was at his best wooing mutant alien chicks, it's all been downhill from there. Trust me, once you bang some green chick in a gold lame (la-may) dress humanoid chicks will never measure up. :lol:

I'll stand by my statement. One doesn't have to be an "artist" to make gibberish into magic, all one has to do is deliver the vocal with conviction. As far as I'm concerned that's the key. That's what made the whole punk thing work, the philosophy there is "everything is shit so we'll be shit, too." Embracing that philosophy the more you suck the better you are. The floor is the ceiling, the ceiling becomes the floor. Who is to say which end really is up?
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drhulsey wrote:
deiseldave wrote: ... Be ____ cause, ____ he _____ was ______ Captain ______ Kirk !!
AND Denny Crane!! How many people have created TWO iconic roles on TV in a lifetime 8)
You can't discount "Priceline Negotiator" either. I'm convinced that Shatner was the real reason behind Elvis' downward spiral... Presley had to know he couldn't compete with that.
CaseyJones wrote: I'll stand by my statement. One doesn't have to be an "artist" to make gibberish into magic, all one has to do is deliver the vocal with conviction. As far as I'm concerned that's the key. That's what made the whole punk thing work, the philosophy there is "everything is shit so we'll be shit, too." Embracing that philosophy the more you suck the better you are. The floor is the ceiling, the ceiling becomes the floor. Who is to say which end really is up?
I can't say that I agree with all this, but I can certainly see why a person would say it. The problem is, that conviction is just zeal to sell “it”. But, “it” has to be there.
The Sex Pistols, for example (since you brought up punk) didn’t have much (if any) musical skill. But they weren’t selling musical skill. They were selling “it”, and in this case, I believe that “it” was: A perfectly timed “changing of the guard” middle finger salute to Boston StyxWagon and Disco + John Lydon’s wit and charisma + Steve Jones’ chunky Marshall tone + Sid Viscious name and look.
Speaking of lyrics, “Nevermind the Bollocks” has a butt-load of clever moments, like: “I didn’t ask for sunshine, and I got World War III, I’m looking over the wall, and they’re looking at me.”
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deiseldave wrote:I can't say that I agree with all this, but I can certainly see why a person would say it. The problem is, that conviction is just zeal to sell “it”. But, “it” has to be there.
The Sex Pistols, for example (since you brought up punk) didn’t have much (if any) musical skill. But they weren’t selling musical skill. They were selling “it”, and in this case, I believe that “it” was: A perfectly timed “changing of the guard” middle finger salute to Boston StyxWagon and Disco + John Lydon’s wit and charisma + Steve Jones’ chunky Marshall tone + Sid Viscious name and look.
Speaking of lyrics, “Nevermind the Bollocks” has a butt-load of clever moments, like: “I didn’t ask for sunshine, and I got World War III, I’m looking over the wall, and they’re looking at me.”
Here's the way it works: If the artist believes it and the audience believes it it's magic even if the artist is Britt Knee Spears or Hannah Montana and the audience is a bunch of pre-pubescent girls. You and I know it's fake from the get-go but we're skeptics, we're non-believers.

If the artist believes it and you don't it's crap.

If the artist doesn't believe in it then it's tough to convince anyone.

Speaking of Boston StyxWagon: Shitwagon always had me reaching for the power switch on my radio, turn that crap right off. It's not the guitars, it's the vocals. Not the vocal content, the vocal style. Which is difficult for me to reconcile because I can listen to Geddy Lee, I even used to think he had something to say.

Shitwagon used to be a staple at tit bars.

For some odd reason any song I associate with a memorable physical display stays with me forever. I wuz gettin' over a breakup wif a woman who I had intended to hang on to for a while, "Blame It On The Rain" was at the top of the charts. Between the alcohol, the squack and where my sorry-ass head wuz at that particular moment "Blame It On The Rain" still moves me. :lol:

"Sunday Bloody Sunday" does about the same thing 'cuz I heard it once at precisely the moment the barkeep's wife grabbed me and stuck 'er tongue in me ear. Too much information... :lol:

I can wade through Styx just to get to What's His Face's scratchy Strat solos. From a classic rock perspective their compositions are pretty well put together. From a revisionist history perspective... maybe not. Van Halen hadn't come along yet and Grunge still lived in its daddy's nutsack.

Boston: Hey, don't diss those guys! They're Just Another Band Outta Boston! They're Smokin'! :lol:

Boston for me is about the guitar tone. I don't even care about the guitar harmonies, I can listen to The Allmans or Thin Lizzy for guitar harmonies. All I need to hear is Barry's old Marshall just haulin' ass and it is Barry's old Marshall... or at least it was until Tom scratched his Social Security number into it.

That doesn't address the lyrics. Lessee, if I wuz 16 to 25 or maybe even 30 what would I write songs about? Gettin' laid and gettin' wasted, that's what! Every new generation thinks they invented the stuff.

Except for The Pistols. They sang about Thatcher era England. Must be they didn't get laid much! :lol:
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"Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another you've been messin' around" :oops:
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CaseyJones wrote: Here's the way it works: If the artist believes it and the audience believes it it's magic even if the artist is Britt Knee Spears or Hannah Montana and the audience is a bunch of pre-pubescent girls. You and I know it's fake from the get-go but we're skeptics, we're non-believers.
Lets see Hanna Montana acheive and retain the notoriety of the Beatles (or even the Sex Pistols for that matter). Frank Sinatra said that "Something" was one of the greatest love songs ever written. The Beatles pushed past thier "boy band" beginnings with good old fashioned craftsmanship.
CaseyJones wrote:

If the artist believes it and you don't it's crap.

If the artist doesn't believe in it then it's tough to convince anyone.
No argument there. Either way, though, I think there has to be something aesthetic there in order to be relevant years later.

CaseyJones wrote:
Boston: Hey, don't diss those guys! They're Just Another Band Outta Boston! They're Smokin'! :lol:
I wasn't dissin'. They were just part of that over-processed stadium rock sound that Punk was against.
CaseyJones wrote:
Except for The Pistols. They sang about Thatcher era England. Must be they didn't get laid much! :lol:
They were the first to admit it. :D
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deiseldave wrote:Lets see Hanna Montana acheive and retain the notoriety of the Beatles (or even the Sex Pistols for that matter). Frank Sinatra said that "Something" was one of the greatest love songs ever written. The Beatles pushed past thier "boy band" beginnings with good old fashioned craftsmanship.
As far as the record companies are concerned it doesn't matter. If they get their money outta six weeks at the top of the charts that's fine. Hopefully the band hasn't shot its wad with that stellar first album because they might get another shot at it but usually just one. I don't even think it's about the music, musical skill, talent or any of that... it's about the public's attention span. Which is measured in seconds.

It's a whole different era from The Beatles era. People still read books and newspapers back then. Television was frequently black and white although it was broadcast in color. I have a bootleg of The Beatles at Shea that was shot on black and white film, no one thought they were important enough at the time to shoot in color.

These days people will believe just about anything the television tells them and they'll forget about it just about instantly.
deiseldave wrote:
CaseyJones wrote:Boston: Hey, don't diss those guys! They're Just Another Band Outta Boston! They're Smokin'! :lol:
I wasn't dissin'. They were just part of that over-processed stadium rock sound that Punk was against.
OT but that's exactly how Tom wanted it.

It's easier to clean tracks these days but obsessive over-production is what delayed the third album. Record company wants album... no album. Record company sternly requests album, still no album. Record company sez, "No album... no money."

I suppose it's like Chinese Democracy... (which oddly enough has nothing to do with my politics)
deiseldave wrote:
CaseyJones wrote:
Except for The Pistols. They sang about Thatcher era England. Must be they didn't get laid much! :lol:
They were the first to admit it. :D
How noble of them! :twisted: Then they originated just about every disgusting punk fashion statement and discredited any meaningful message punk might have had in short order.
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they originated just about every disgusting punk fashion statement and discredited any meaningful message punk might have had in short order.
They were a Malcolm McLaren project ... If I remember right.
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"I walked in, there sat Slim...
He was cleanin' up his memory with some Sapphire gin..."
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These actually touch home for me. They are kind of a Biography of my life until I met my wife who gave me two amazing sons.

I sold my soul
Just so I could feel paid
I broke my heart
So I couldn't feel pain
I lost my faith
'Coz I can't justify the wait
I've got no hope
That's only for losers and fakes

I'm nothing but user
And none abuser
You don't wanna know what's on my mind
I know I'm just a fool
but I'm not foolin',
I'm not afraid of make fool out of my self

F*ck your money
F*ck your fame
F*ck my life
I'll walk away
F*ck our love
F*ck I'm sorry for anything i've ever done

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It's here for us to admire if we can afford the beauty of it
If we can afford the luxury of turning our heads
(If we can if we can if we can)
Adjust the thousand dollar smile and behold the creation of man
Great words won't cover ugly actions
Good frames won't save bad paintings

WOOO

We lack the motion to move to the new beat
YEAAAH!
We lack motion

When the day is over (Hey) the doors are locked on us
'Cause money buys the access
And we can't pay the cost
How can we expect anyone to listen
If we're using the same old voice?
We need new noise
New art for the real people

refused - new noise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8MkVIe9xGc)
great song, great lyric, sadly its probly out of the musical realm of most of the people here. the punk/metal scene dosnt quite seem to fit in with the jazz and classic rock dominating this forum. stuck the vid on here just incase im not the only one haha.
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I watched a show with my 12 year old featuring Hannah Montana on T.V.

I thought she was talented and good...

Did'nt care one bit for the Jonas Bro though... :roll:

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I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
Well, I wake in the morning,
Fold my hands and pray for rain.
I got a head full of ideas
That are drivin' me insane.
It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor.
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.

I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more.
No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more.
Well, he hands you a nickel,
He hands you a dime,
He asks you with a grin
If you're havin' a good time,
Then he fines you every time you slam the door.
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more.

I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more.
No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more.
Well, he puts his cigar
Out in your face just for kicks.
His bedroom window
It is made out of bricks.
The National Guard stands around his door.
Ah, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more.

I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more.
No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more.
Well, she talks to all the servants
About man and God and law.
Everybody says
She's the brains behind pa.
She's sixty-eight, but she says she's twenty-four.
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more.

I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
Well, I try my best
To be just like I am,
But everybody wants you
To be just like them.
They sing while you slave and I just get bored.
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more.
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"The more you know the less you feel
Some pray for others steal
Blessings are not just for the ones who kneel... luckily"-U2, City of Blinding Lights
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