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Problem solved.
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:shock: That's pretty dangerous too! A 200V cap would explode if you put it in a 500V circuit..
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Holy smoke! Chicanery indeed. So there was a 330uF/200V cap inside a shell marked 40uF/500V?? Seems like such gross misrepresentation would be illegal? It's not even remotely close in capacitance or voltage rating.

Sorry you got burned and took one for the team dude, but thanks for exposing this.
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Yikes!

However I am not too surprised.
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I would send that picture to Weber. I am sure they would not knowingly sell potentially lethal crap like that.

They should refund your purchase and sue whoever they bought them from. And press criminal charges.

However, there is an excellent chance that this stuff originates in South East Asia, good luck taking legal action against anyone in China, Vietnam, Thailand etc.
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That is real treachery. :evil:

Not to mention libelous.

I wonder what kind of legal grounds there would be if someone was injured or worse from using those.
Exceeding the working voltage by 100% has never been a good thing!

Did anybody ever confirm whether or not the Sprague Atoms were built as advertised.

So the dead giveaway is when there is not a sealed metal end on the - end of the cap?

I don't believe I have ever heard of Elon.
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And to think that so many people gave me grief for calling out Ted about that Copper Crap being dangerous. Ted was a complete asshole and his products reflect that. This newest revelation does not surprise me at all. Let's hope this is a trend that sticks around and grows teeth. :lol:
BTW, please post some additional pictures of this item, would you?
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Its a boomer, Weber the speaker guy?
That is total crap, I try to stick with an authorized distributors.
they have to assume a measure of responsibility.
Ive seen that as a restorers trick, new cap in an old can, but you
use the right value etc.. and inform the client.

They are responsible if they are selling them knowingly.
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Wow, so glad I saw this, I was going to order some can caps from weber this week, don't feel comfortable buying from him now... How could someone expect to get away with that? Less than half the voltage rating and 8 times the capacitance, unreal...
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The telling thing will be how they respond to this, and whether they initiate a product recall before somebody is injured by one of these exploding.

Tom - the Sprague Atoms are different. They are correctly-specified capacitors that are just a lot smaller with modern manufacturing techniques that have been put in bigger shells for a 'vintage correct' appearance. Sprague themselves say not to design with Atoms and to use their newer ranges, and only use the Atoms for replacement purposes. This is why.
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Woah! That is shadey!

In the event of injury weber would be responsible he sold you the product and took responsibility for that product the moment he gained profit from it's sale. I wouldn't expect much response from the weber camp the few times I've had to deal with them has been pretty weak and heated.
I'm glad no one got hurt
I hope others take the warning and stop giving him business as well.
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The Weber can caps are not crap. He sells the same can caps everyone else sells. I used his white can cap for a 5b6 bassman and no problems.

Now his pots are crap and some other parts.
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M Fowler wrote:The Weber can caps are not crap. He sells the same can caps everyone else sells. I used his white can cap for a 5b6 bassman and no problems.

Now his pots are crap and some other parts.
No, I am not talking about his caps...the COPPER CAN RECTIFIER replacement widget POS. A total joke of design and safety. I wouldn't buy anything from Weber, even his can cap. Beyond the scope of this discussion, is the history of Weber and the complete bullshit he caused on other forums. This is legendary and true. The Weber apologist will never be swayed, which is completely fine by me. A fool and his money are easily parted.
BTW...
Check your spelling " I used his white can cap for a 5b6 bassman "
You meant 5F6?
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Nothing wrong with my spelling I built a Fender Bassman 5b6 and I also built a 5F6a. KISS OFF :!:
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Bruciep07 wrote:Wow, so glad I saw this, I was going to order some can caps from weber this week, don't feel comfortable buying from him now... How could someone expect to get away with that? Less than half the voltage rating and 8 times the capacitance, unreal...
This what my post was referring to.
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