Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
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Re: Carmen Ghia schematics
From one newbie to another I think....tom56dan wrote:Could you please email a Carmen Ghia schematics and layout.
Thank You
Tom
tom56dan@comcast.net
You need to have more than one post before you ask such a request
Besides there is no reason to use email, stuff can be pm'd
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
RF, you don't have to apologize for wanting to see a schematic on an ampbuilding forum. Or at least, should't have to!!! Even if you wanted to build an exact copy for yourself right down to the Stolen Zenith Logo. If it's for you it doesn't matter. For $1000.00 you could build 2 much better amps and I'm sure you have the abilityrfgordon wrote:Let me first say apologize for violating protocol by posting the shematics. My bad. And I certainly didn't mean to dis Mike Zaite. He, like a lot of guys in the amp biz, started out building for players and helping them get the "sound in their head." I've got a harp player borrowing one of my prototypes now, and we'll go down that road together.
I certainly wouldn't rip off somebody's design and sell it as my own. I would, however, put my twist on it, like, say, a Carmen Ghia with a pair of 6V6s or something. Combine things and come up with a new voice.
I think a lot of people forget how much can be done with basic circuits. Take the tried-and-true gain stage-->cathode follower-->tone stack-->PI-->output tubes. That can be morphed into almost anything from spanking clean to seriously angry. It just depends on what you put where and what the values are. Seems to me the real visionaries are the ones who tweak a couple of details and make it special. I doubt anyone in this forum is out to get over on anyone else.
While it is true that Joe Local can buy any number of ordinary to extraordinary amps these days on his tonequest, those companies can't do what we offer to our local guys: A voicing session with a handful of jumper wires and components. Nobody at the Booga Booga Amp Corporation is gonna tell a player, "Try this for a few gigs, and if you don't like it, I'll put in the other transormer and see what you like better."
I think that the more ideas we share the more that gets filtered into what we truly have to offer our own local pickers, wherever we are. If those ideas have to be shared on the DL, so be it, but it's still kinda sad that it has to be this way.
A
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
Perhaps the Amp Garage solution is to post the source schematics with explanations, instead of specific Z, Roquefort, Carr, et al, schematics. That should keep Omar happy, and demonstrate our enlightened sense of history....
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
Here is a link to the Hammond AO-35 schematic, this is the root of the Carmen Ghia, anyone got a schematic of the Matchless Cheiftan mid control?
http://www.captain-foldback.com/Hammond ... s/AO35.JPG
Oh, here we go...
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electron ... ieftan.pdf
http://www.captain-foldback.com/Hammond ... s/AO35.JPG
Oh, here we go...
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electron ... ieftan.pdf
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
Thanks, I was recalling, while reading an Express thread querying EL34 running cathode bias, that the Chieftain had such an output section.
Uhhh, could I get some of the GHIA love too?
I own 3 AO35 amps, so I think the humane thing to do with them is to let them become ghias. Anyone care to share that schem/layout. Thanks, Brent.
topbrent@gmail.com
topbrent@gmail.com
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
If someone could also share this ghia stuff with me it would be apreciated.
Marc.ct.holmes@gmail.com
Marc.ct.holmes@gmail.com
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Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
i would also apreciate having this ghia info
321.george@googlemail.com
321.george@googlemail.com
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
Nope...you are correct Drz400! 
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
Why is it weird only having one post and requesting a schematic. Or is it a crime to read posts without posting, i won't post without a reason and untill now i've had no reason to post.
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
What i dont get is why its such a crime for peopel to post dr z schematics, since as far as i can see as long as its not his original copyrited material, what laws are being broken, since its perfectly legal for someone to rip off an existing amp and sell it as their own (as long as there is no patent), i dont get what the big deal is, okay the Dr guy makes a big deal but what can action can he take?
Re: Carmen Ghia schematic/layout?
If your making one for yourself he can't do anything! He likes to huff and puff alot! You can even copy the amp and not call it what he did and sell it. The designs for these amps are not patentable. I will never understand why these guys have the "I stole it first" mentality. I always say that if these manufacturers sold amps at a reasonable price and had good tone, no one would bother making their own.eggman6 wrote:What i dont get is why its such a crime for peopel to post dr z schematics, since as far as i can see as long as its not his original copyrited material, what laws are being broken, since its perfectly legal for someone to rip off an existing amp and sell it as their own (as long as there is no patent), i dont get what the big deal is, okay the Dr guy makes a big deal but what can action can he take?
I don't personally get the Dr.Z thing. I've never heard one that I liked and wouldn't waste my time building one.
Allynmey