No output from new amp build
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Re: No output from new amp build
I have the bias v wire and I have a bias common wire from th pt
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Re: No output from new amp build
There are 3 main wires that comprise the bias circuit.
1) the AC bias tap feed from the power transformer to the input dropping resistor that then feeds the diode.
2) as I posted before the ground wire off of the positive end of the two bias filter caps.
3) the negative DC bias feed from the right hand side of the 1K resistor to the junction of the two 220K resistors.
I will ask again what do you have for a negative voltage on pin 5 of the output tubes with these output tubes not in there sockets?
1) the AC bias tap feed from the power transformer to the input dropping resistor that then feeds the diode.
2) as I posted before the ground wire off of the positive end of the two bias filter caps.
3) the negative DC bias feed from the right hand side of the 1K resistor to the junction of the two 220K resistors.
I will ask again what do you have for a negative voltage on pin 5 of the output tubes with these output tubes not in there sockets?
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Re: No output from new amp build
This is the pt I have
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Re: No output from new amp build
Do not put your output tubes back in until that -22 volts is increased to -30 to -32!
Is the what that Hammond chart calls the common wire on that bias tap grounded like it should be?
Is the what that Hammond chart calls the common wire on that bias tap grounded like it should be?
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Not screaming like the passengers in his car!
Cutting out a man's tongue does not mean he’s a liar, but it does show that you fear the truth he might speak about you!
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Re: No output from new amp build
Ok. I just wanna make sure where that green wire goes to
Re: No output from new amp build
With the standby switch on
or turned off?
or turned off?
Re: No output from new amp build
No, the grid and cathode of the follower will be at the same voltage as the previous, adjoined gain stage plate (direct coupled).pompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:44 pmSo a cathode follower has the anode and cathode voltages identical? that definitely seems odd to me... there's zero voltage drop across the entire triode?Colossal wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:10 pmCathode followerpompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 3:34 am also pins 6/7/8 all being 108 volts seems really odd... Without a schematic, though I'm just guessing, but they should be similar to V1.
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I know that the cathode voltages on one half of the cathode follower can be higher, but I didn't think the anode and cathode were at the same potential? And the grid of the same triode?
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Re: No output from new amp build
Maybe I misunderstood your point, but my point was that these three triode components all being at the same voltage seemed bad... (just reread my original content and I indicated I didn't know 'why' the voltages might be how they are, due to not having a schematic, and likely you were clarifying that for me.. makes sense that the anode should be the same as the cathode of the previous stage, but the anode should definitely have a voltage drop... seems very odd to me.)Colossal wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:54 amNo, the grid and cathode of the follower will be at the same voltage as the previous, adjoined gain stage plate (direct coupled).pompeiisneaks wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:44 pmSo a cathode follower has the anode and cathode voltages identical? that definitely seems odd to me... there's zero voltage drop across the entire triode?
I know that the cathode voltages on one half of the cathode follower can be higher, but I didn't think the anode and cathode were at the same potential? And the grid of the same triode?
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Re: No output from new amp build
A typical cathode follower has the plate connected directly to a B+ node. The plate must be more positive than the cathode. Otherwise, there's no way to attract those electrons that are boiling off the cathode.
Re: No output from new amp build
Well said. And the grid must still be kept negative relative to the cathode. None of the voltages should be identical at idle.
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Yeah that's right, I'm tired today, and I couldn't visualize it to explain it... it's the grid that's coupled to the cathode of the previous phase... ugh, I'm at coffee cup 3 and still not braining things...
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Re: No output from new amp build
You may need plane old water to rehydrate with !
When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming like the passengers in his car!
Cutting out a man's tongue does not mean he’s a liar, but it does show that you fear the truth he might speak about you!
Not screaming like the passengers in his car!
Cutting out a man's tongue does not mean he’s a liar, but it does show that you fear the truth he might speak about you!