standby switch position
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standby switch position
Greetings
I was wondering want is the best position for the standby switch.
1. after rectifier- before the first filter cap for the plate/ OT.
2. between OT/plate and g2.
3. PT center tap with a full-wave forward rectifier.
"3" seems like it may have less stress on the switch but not sure.
I've noticed several schematics with the lifted CT "Ampeg" etc.
Any input appreciated.
I was wondering want is the best position for the standby switch.
1. after rectifier- before the first filter cap for the plate/ OT.
2. between OT/plate and g2.
3. PT center tap with a full-wave forward rectifier.
"3" seems like it may have less stress on the switch but not sure.
I've noticed several schematics with the lifted CT "Ampeg" etc.
Any input appreciated.
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Re: standby switch position
Short and sweet answer is ‘in the trash’johnny riff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:45 pm ...I was wondering want is the best position for the standby switch...
What are you hoping to accomplish?
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Re: standby switch position
Just here to +1 pdf's response, I also remove the standby on most of my amps.
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Re: standby switch position
Hi and thanks for your feedback.
"What are you hoping to accomplish?"
well, i have the hole drilled and switch. carling off-stby-on.
wanted to lift the CT, would this work? or something like the link valve wizard shows.
series resistor on the switch.
"What are you hoping to accomplish?"
well, i have the hole drilled and switch. carling off-stby-on.
wanted to lift the CT, would this work? or something like the link valve wizard shows.
series resistor on the switch.
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Re: standby switch position
Lifting the HT winding CT works but may be a bad idea if there was a bias tap from it.
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Re: standby switch position
I should have mentioned its a cathode bias output.
My PT is 700 ct so a tube rectifier is in order, would that be problematic?
the thing is it's the only switch I have.
plus when you elevate the filaments 6.3 is that a fix bias thing or can it be done with cath. bias output above the cath. voltage?
My PT is 700 ct so a tube rectifier is in order, would that be problematic?
the thing is it's the only switch I have.
plus when you elevate the filaments 6.3 is that a fix bias thing or can it be done with cath. bias output above the cath. voltage?
Re: standby switch position
Have you considered buying another, or just wiring it so that the centre position is that same as the 'on' position?
See valvewizard's 'least bad' arrangement, towards the end of the linked page of previous post.johnny riff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:57 pm...a tube rectifier is in order, would that be problematic?...
(Shared) cathode bias makes implementing a +Vdc offset for the heater circuit easy peasy, eg https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics ... entury.pdfjohnny riff wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:57 pm...plus when you elevate the filaments 6.3 is that a fix bias thing or can it be done with cath. bias output above the cath. voltage?
Hint - heaters are referenced to the power tube cathode
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Re: standby switch position
Thanks for your input PDF.
From the Valve Wizard site its not recommended to "hot switch" the tube rectifier
(still working out values for current limiting resistors). I have the center position of my switch -ac for heaters and lifted ct. top position engages ct. I assume this is not "hot switching" but will not come on instantly- I suspect due to warm-up time for tube rectifier(gz34).
I realized after asking that you just connect fil.ct to power tube cathode+ before R and C.
From the Valve Wizard site its not recommended to "hot switch" the tube rectifier
(still working out values for current limiting resistors). I have the center position of my switch -ac for heaters and lifted ct. top position engages ct. I assume this is not "hot switching" but will not come on instantly- I suspect due to warm-up time for tube rectifier(gz34).
I realized after asking that you just connect fil.ct to power tube cathode+ before R and C.
Re: standby switch position
Hot switching means switching a uncharged reservoir cap on to a hot rectifier. The method you propose would be hot switching.
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Re: standby switch position
gotcha- the 5v would be on before the HT-winding.
I left some extra length on my tranny wires,, a good thing.
I'll move it between plate cap and screen.
thanks again pdf
I left some extra length on my tranny wires,, a good thing.
I'll move it between plate cap and screen.
thanks again pdf
Re: standby switch position
Why not follow valvewizard’s recommendation, switch between reservoir cap and the rest of the amp, trickle bypass resistor across switch?
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Re: standby switch position
"Follow valvewizard’s recommendation".
That's the plan. just need to modify my board with an extra eyelet. piece of cake!
thanks again pdf
That's the plan. just need to modify my board with an extra eyelet. piece of cake!
thanks again pdf