Marshall Amps OT - primary DC resistance stats

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Marshall Amps OT - primary DC resistance stats

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Got a 100W DSL on the bench.

Looks like it might be the OT. Measuring 16R from the CT to each leg and 32R across the legs.

My notes on previous jobs show these to be around 45R; CT-leg.

My DMM isn't the most accurate when it comes to small resistances, but the Secondary looks fairly normal from .2R to .3R.


Reckon i'm barking up the right tree, or can this be a special case?
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I've seen plenty of newer 100W Marshalls with numbers like that. What symptoms?
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No sound.

I scoped both the primary and sec, using a guitar in the input and there was some fluctuation, but i haven't measured with sig generator.

The mains fuse had popped, but i replaced it and it's staying on.

Wondering if the EL34s are all simply dead and/or not conducting properly.
The HT fuse was fine when i checked it and there's 470VDC or so on the plates. Haven't probed much else yet.

i'll get into it more tomorrow.
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Try the signal generator to verify the turns ratio of the OT, but since it isn't open, you should be getting something. Preamp or PI tube maybe? Or something open in the signal path. Try using the signal generator into the input and see where the signal stops.
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We are having the same kind of day. I was sure this OT was bad.. Removed it and now I think it's good.

I need electron detecting glasses so I can see where things aren't right. This is a newbie test.. Check.. 2.. 3.. Oh, there's a 1? Crap!
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Wasn't the OT in the end, it was the 16-ohm speaker output.

When you plug into that 16, the 4 & 8 ohm outputs are cut off. The socket's 'cutting off' contacts had become corroded, and what must have happened was, mid-play, the corrosion decided it was going to win the battle.

Replaced the socket, fine. Added a bridge to make all sockets active. (Client knows, he approves)

Seems a little risky to have the OT's operation dependent on a little contact like the Cliff socket bridge.

They don't make 'em like they used to, grumble, moan.

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I have come across this on DSL's before...

Buddha's Guitar Tech wrote:Wasn't the OT in the end, it was the 16-ohm speaker output.

When you plug into that 16, the 4 & 8 ohm outputs are cut off. The socket's 'cutting off' contacts had become corroded, and what must have happened was, mid-play, the corrosion decided it was going to win the battle.

Replaced the socket, fine. Added a bridge to make all sockets active. (Client knows, he approves)

Seems a little risky to have the OT's operation dependent on a little contact like the Cliff socket bridge.

They don't make 'em like they used to, grumble, moan.

Thanks everyone.
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