Genesis of Bluesmaster?

[mdroberts1243]

Does anybody know the history/genesis of the Bluesmaster?

Who used the Bluesmaster as Dumble built it? Did he do this for specific artists? Are there recordings out there that would provide a 'reference' tone?

Thanks,

[Funkalicousgroove]

Sonny Landreth "Grant Street"

[Bob-I]

Sonny Landreth "Grant Street"

I thought he used a dual amp setup on that one, Dumble/Matchless. Amazing tone and playing.

[mdroberts1243]

Sonny Landreth "Grant Street"

Thanks Funk!

BTW, I settled on the "SunnyLand" values in my BM100W build, with the corrections to the Rk value crossovers you pointed out.

[Funkalicousgroove]

When I saw/Met him in Copper Mountain, CO he was just using the Dumble, and it sounded like his tones on Grant Street, he used the Matchless alot on "The road we're on" and the tone is DISTINCTLY different.

[Funkalicousgroove]

Sonny Landreth "Grant Street"

Thanks Funk!

BTW, I settled on the "SunnyLand" values in my BM100W build, with the corrections to the Rk value crossovers you pointed out.

After you changed the RK values did you notice an improvement?

[mdroberts1243]

Sonny Landreth "Grant Street"

Thanks Funk!

BTW, I settled on the "SunnyLand" values in my BM100W build, with the corrections to the Rk value crossovers you pointed out.

After you changed the RK values did you notice an improvement?

With the Rk values flipped on CL1 I found the 1st stage too clean (you could go to 1.2Vpp on the guitar input and be perfectly clean or go to 2.25Vpp before noticeable distortion). The plate voltage got pretty low on CL1 too. On CL2 I found the 'compression range' on the volume control to be very limited... I was following a tweeking philosophy on this build of determining the 'maximum clean' input levels for each stage with each control and then finding where the control caused distortion and then hard clipping.

With the 'correct' Rk values the 1st stage enters compression around 660-800mV pp... around double of a stock HRM but still within the output of a heavily played guitar. The Volume control (input to the 2nd stage) has a wider range of 'compression zone'... the best I saw in trying out the 6 or so combinations of components in the spring clips.

I'm still playing around with the OD input (playing with reducing bass in), but I think perhaps Gil's comments have me too critical, I like the growl and bite (Clapton's crossroads or further down the road tone).

[mdroberts1243]

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[mdroberts1243]

When I saw/Met him in Copper Mountain, CO he was just using the Dumble, and it sounded like his tones on Grant Street, he used the Matchless alot on "The road we're on" and the tone is DISTINCTLY different.

A lot of his stuff on YouTube is Matchless or Marshall, but "All about you" has the dumble front & centre... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quqhEi8O ... re=related

[Funkalicousgroove]

Lyrics from "gone Pecan"

I got a gibson firebird
and a Dumble too,
a coricidin bottle
to carry the blues

[mdroberts1243]

Lyrics from "gone Pecan"

I got a gibson firebird
and a Dumble too,
a coricidin bottle
to carry the blues

And from Wikipedia... some history I didn't know...

In the 1960s, blues-rock guitarist Duane Allman (1946-1971) of The Allman Brothers Band began using an empty glass Coricidin bottle as a guitar slide, finding it to be just the right size and shape for this purpose. Other prominent slide guitarists, such as Derek Trucks, Rory Gallagher, and Gary Rossington of Lynyrd Skynyrd adopted the Coricidin bottle as well, but such bottles eventually went out of production in the early 1980s (although replicas have been produced since 1985)

[tubedogsmith]

Lyrics from "gone Pecan"

I got a gibson firebird
and a Dumble too,
a coricidin bottle
to carry the blues

And from Wikipedia... some history I didn't know...

In the 1960s, blues-rock guitarist Duane Allman (1946-1971) of The Allman Brothers Band began using an empty glass Coricidin bottle as a guitar slide, finding it to be just the right size and shape for this purpose. Other prominent slide guitarists, such as Derek Trucks, Rory Gallagher, and Gary Rossington of Lynyrd Skynyrd adopted the Coricidin bottle as well, but such bottles eventually went out of production in the early 1980s (although replicas have been produced since 1985)

they put a big childproof ring around the bottles by the top that kinda screwed them up for slide playing way before the '80's

[Funkalicousgroove]

It's some kind of cold medicine isn't it?

[JimiB]

one of my favorite guitar players. Realizing his tone was a dumble made me want one more than anything else.
Mark,
Does your bluesmaster schematic reflect the values you ended up with?

[ampdork]

It's some kind of cold medicine isn't it?

Indeed. It also has a reputation for being abused and being a very dangerous drug to abuse. Lots of deaths...

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