Dumble note flipping caught on sound file!

[Structo]

what is note-flipping if not bloom?
plenty of note-rolling in this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPlURhoP ... re=related

although tag won't admitt to it.

HAHAHA, I used to have that very Casio!

[BobW]

Guys, since the threads that Tag provides comments into, always get spun up and steered to being ALL about Tag (mr. dumble, in his own mind) why does anyone continue to support and perpetuate this? I now laugh at his immature, ego-centric antics, and don't care if this guy owned 10 Dumbles.

[M Fowler]

Bob it's entertaining

I also enjoy listening to Tag's, Scott's and anyone else's clips.

Well anyhoo that is why I keep on reading.

Mark

[Mr Dumble]

I don't understand what a 'stranger bloom without the highs' means. Any care to elaborate further or post a clip with a clearly identified example? I enjoy the clips that have been posted, but does it really take 50 notes to give an example? It means that many notes don't have the 'feature' that the poster is trying to highlight.

How about a clip with one note that is a good example of flipping and one note with bloom without feedback? Just a single note that leaves no questions about what the poster is describing.

The term bloom has a descriptive connotation that makes sense, at least to me. Flipping does not, at least in my mind.

Feed back and note flipping are totally different things. What I am calling note flipping is when it sounds like it shifts phase. Scott, it should flip easier with more treble. Vibrato,If you cant hear it in my very first post where I even give the time, I do not think you are going to be able to hear it. That is a great example that is really easy to hear IMO.

[Mr Dumble]

Guys, since the threads that Tag provides comments into, always get spun up and steered to being ALL about Tag (mr. dumble, in his own mind) why does anyone continue to support and perpetuate this? I now laugh at his immature, ego-centric antics, and don't care if this guy owned 10 Dumbles.

Now behave yourself Robert!

Yes they do, because guys like yourself steer them that way. You cant help it because you are so attracted to my magnetic personality.

Look, you could not even stay out of this one. I think maybe you are in love!

[JD0x0]

Note flipping is bloom minus the highs. Pinner and I confirmed over my house. When we used the amp with no cables, no bright cap, she went into nice feedback and bloom. When we used the cables, it rolled and compressed the highs, what was left was a stranger bloom that had wierd artifacts...the flip thing.

Steve, care to chime in??

Ahh now I get it thanks Scott! I can hear the difference now that you mention it. I use alot of presence and when I get bloom it gets a really nice noticable "boost" in the higher harmonics, while still leaving all the lows that were there before. On command i'll get the flipping as well, it's a little strange at first when it first "moves" but once flipped it's like a warmer bloom IMO. I prefer the higher harmonics of the former as it sounds very rich and pleasant to my ears.

Also FWIW im using a Ceriatone OTS that ive modded a bit. KT88 output.

[Mr Dumble]

Two more examples. WARNING!! TURN YOUR PLAYER WAY DOWN! VERY LOUD. The first one you can hear the note start to flip, but then stop. The second example, when I bend that string, the not flips instantly! Alosmt like when you get a false hamonic by catching the string with your finger just a bit when picked, but its not! If I picked lighter, that note would sound COMPLETELY different. More Dumble magic!!

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 64671&q=hi


DUMBLE DUMBLE DUMBLE!!
CLONE CLONE CLONE!!

[Structo]

Huh, sounds like a harmonic to me.

[stevlech]

I think playing technique is a major factor in note "flipping". Sure, the harmonic richness of the amp(s) accentuate the effect and maybe sag contributes as well, but that sound really comes from the player's hands IMO.

[JD0x0]

I think playing technique is a major factor in note "flipping". Sure, the harmonic richness of the amp(s) accentuate the effect and maybe sag contributes as well, but that sound really comes from the player's hands IMO.

+1 but then again theres some amps that are very difficult to pull it off.

Thats what I like about the dumble circuit. The amp pretty much lets you do exactly what you want. It becomes like a paintbrush with infinite colors compared to other amps. Amazing response and It brings out the little nusances and "mistakes" that other amps wont. And IMO THATS what the dumble "magic" is. Other than the angelic tone and dripping harmonics, that is.

[vibratoking]

Vibrato,If you cant hear it in my very first post where I even give the time, I do not think you are going to be able to hear it. That is a great example that is really easy to hear IMO.

The point is not whether I can hear 'it'. The point is that all of the previous posts have alot of things to hear. Tag- thanks for the last post with the almost single notes. That is what I was asking for. I simply want to make sure we are all talking about the exact same features of the notes or the discussion is meaningless.

Again I ask, does the bloom predominantly happen in rock mode vs jazz mode for most of you guys? My experience is that it mainly happens in rock mode and seldom, if at all, in jazz mode.

[JD0x0]

Again I ask, does the bloom predominantly happen in rock mode vs jazz mode for most of you guys? My experience is that it mainly happens in rock mode and seldom, if at all, in jazz mode.

Rock. I think jazz mode was intended to have less bloom and feedback due to hollow body "jazz" guitars already being prone to feedback. Jazz mode seems to eliminate it by cutting a good bit of low mids out. JMO

[Max]

I think jazz mode was intended to have less bloom and feedback due to hollow body "jazz" guitars already being prone to feedback. Jazz mode seems to eliminate it by cutting a good bit of low mids out. JMO

Hi JDOxO,

Before the "Rock/Jazz" switch was labelled "Rock/Jazz" it was labelled "Guitar/Mic" (up to around ODS #030 AFAIR) and without any change of the circuit AFAIK.

Cheers,

Max

[Structo]

ditto

[Structo]

This one apparently has the Guitar/ Mic switch.