I have been testing a few new reverb ideas lately and I thought I would post to give you guys a few things to try.
If you read over the accutronics literature, they comment about placing a .0022uf cap across the input from the tank to ground. I had always kinda blown over that part, but in the interest of curiousity I did some testing to see the effects. The tests were interesting. The cap tends to make the circuit act more like a bandpass filter, with (obviously) various cap values changing the center frequency and gain.
Below I posted the results for four conditions. No cap, .0022uf, .0047uf and .015uf (extreme case). Note the .0022uf gives the flattest response while the ,.0047uf and .015uf tend to peak the gain at lower frequencies.
Below 1kHz the response variations are minimal. Tweaking this part could (have not applied the "ear" testing yet) allow getting a little "sparkle" in the reverb. Although my guess is that going to big would cause the reverb to get ringy.
Have fun, be interested in getting comments.
Test conditions:
Swept sin wave.
Measured on an Ono Sokki CF-5220 FFT.
Reverb enhancements
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Re: Reverb enhancements
I've been using a 500pF cap in that position. I find it smooths out the reverb, although I've never done an analysis like you did. I'll look at that later (I'm colorblind so my daughter will help me)
Thx
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Re: Reverb enhancements
Gary,
I'll assume you used the same cap type for each value? Orange Drop, Xicon?
I'll assume you used the same cap type for each value? Orange Drop, Xicon?
Re: Reverb enhancements
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Re: Reverb enhancements
The .0022 and .0047 were xicon MPP that I had handy. The .015uf was a Xicon 100V polyster (a green chicklet). For space conservation, I would probably end up going with a 100v something or otherBobW wrote:Gary,
I'll assume you used the same cap type for each value? Orange Drop, Xicon?
Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
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www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
Re: Reverb enhancements
OK, I should have enlarged the pic. Definitely a peak shifted from about 1.5kHz - 2.5kHz, w/ .015 to 2.75kHz - 3.5kHz, w/ .047.
I imagine a .0068 would work well w/ your tank.
Good info, thanks.
I imagine a .0068 would work well w/ your tank.
Good info, thanks.
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Re: Reverb enhancements
Yes the .0047 gives a bit of a bump. I have about 80dB of return gain to work with so not too much of a problem getting a good reverbBobW wrote:OK, I should have enlarged the pic. Definitely a peak shifted from about 1.5kHz - 2.5kHz, w/ .015 to 2.75kHz - 3.5kHz, w/ .047.
I imagine a .0068 would work well w/ your tank.
Good info, thanks.
You are welcome. I will always share information where I can.
Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com