built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
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built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
Should the built in dumbleator and reverb power filter grounds connect to the pot ground bus ? (same as V1, V2 and V3)
			
			
									
									mat
						Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
I've never seen a Dumble with the PS grounds going to the pot bus, always to the chassis near the PT.mat wrote:Should the built in dumbleator and reverb power filter grounds connect to the pot ground bus ? (same as V1, V2 and V3)
I put in a D-Lator in 3 amps and reverb in 2 WITH the D-lator and I've always used the same star ground for all of the preamp filters including the Dlator and reverb filters. I've never had a noise problem.
Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
Ok, thanks Bob. But the PI filter cap ground shouldn't go to the same spot as the V1 and V2 grounds ?Bob-I wrote:I've never seen a Dumble with the PS grounds going to the pot bus, always to the chassis near the PT.mat wrote:Should the built in dumbleator and reverb power filter grounds connect to the pot ground bus ? (same as V1, V2 and V3)
I put in a D-Lator in 3 amps and reverb in 2 WITH the D-lator and I've always used the same star ground for all of the preamp filters including the Dlator and reverb filters. I've never had a noise problem.
mat
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Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
The PI filter ground goes to the BUSS at the SEND/RTN jacksmat wrote:Ok, thanks Bob. But the PI filter cap ground shouldn't go to the same spot as the V1 and V2 grounds ?Bob-I wrote:I've never seen a Dumble with the PS grounds going to the pot bus, always to the chassis near the PT.mat wrote:Should the built in dumbleator and reverb power filter grounds connect to the pot ground bus ? (same as V1, V2 and V3)
I put in a D-Lator in 3 amps and reverb in 2 WITH the D-lator and I've always used the same star ground for all of the preamp filters including the Dlator and reverb filters. I've never had a noise problem.
jim@Omegaamps.com
Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
quote]The PI filter ground goes to the BUSS at the SEND/RTN jacks
jim@Omegaamps.com[/quote]
Ok, Thanks groovtubin !
			
			
									
									jim@Omegaamps.com[/quote]
Ok, Thanks groovtubin !
mat
						Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
The power supply caps for V1 V2 and V3 all ground to the chassis where the ground buss terminates near the input jack.I've never seen a Dumble with the PS grounds going to the pot bus, always to the chassis near the PT.
The PI filter or presence network does indeed terminate at the send return jack but are we talking the presence network or the power supply "filter" for the PI (V3)? Your first question leads me to think your actually asking about the power supply cap for the PI's ground. That is terminated at to a start ground at the same spot os the buss bar.Ok, thanks Bob. But the PI filter cap ground shouldn't go to the same spot as the V1 and V2 grounds ?
True...The PI filter ground goes to the BUSS at the SEND/RTN jacks
Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
Ok. Would it be wise run the ground wire(s) under the pots or between the pots and preampboard ?ampdork wrote:The power supply caps for V1 V2 and V3 all ground to the chassis where the ground buss terminates near the input jack.I've never seen a Dumble with the PS grounds going to the pot bus, always to the chassis near the PT.
So the 1uF (680n) at the presence should not ground in the same place with the other preampboard grounds? I'll route it to the send jack.The PI filter or presence network does indeed terminate at the send return jack but are we talking the presence network or the power supply "filter" for the PI (V3)? Your first question leads me to think your actually asking about the power supply cap for the PI's ground. That is terminated at to a start ground at the same spot os the buss bar.
IIRR I've seen layouts where the PI power supply cap does not go to the same spot as the V1 and V2 supply cap grounds. hmm..
mat
						Re: built in dlator and reverb PS grounds ?
I have mostly seen them between the pots and board. That said I recently have built a few with that lead under the pots and from what I can tell no ill effects and lots of compliments on the tone.Ok. Would it be wise run the ground wire(s) under the pots or between the pots and preampboard ?
YupSo the 1uF (680n) at the presence should not ground in the same place with the other preampboard grounds? I'll route it to the send jack.
Perhaps you have indeed. All I know is later Dumbles had V1-V3 all grounding to the chassis near the input jack for sure.IIRR I've seen layouts where the PI power supply cap does not go to the same spot as the V1 and V2 supply cap grounds. hmm..
Screens go to the rear of the amp near a power tube.
Main filter near the PT rear bolt, closest to the power mains.
D-lator and Reverb
Bob,
Can you post any photos of your builds with d-lator and reverb built in? I'd really like to see details of your layout?
Or if you've posted photos here previously could you provide me a link?
I'm just getting ready to build another D'Lite 44 from scratch and am considering including those items in my build. I'll be CNC'ing bending the chassis from scratch.
Thank-you in advance.
Sincerely,
Steve
			
			
									
									
						Can you post any photos of your builds with d-lator and reverb built in? I'd really like to see details of your layout?
Or if you've posted photos here previously could you provide me a link?
I'm just getting ready to build another D'Lite 44 from scratch and am considering including those items in my build. I'll be CNC'ing bending the chassis from scratch.
Thank-you in advance.
Sincerely,
Steve