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talbany
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Re: Amp Porn

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donvan wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:09 pm
ayan wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:41 pm
... but I would always find myself looking for band aids to help with the OD being to bassy, or too harsh in the highs, or the clean being too dull. After I gutted and rebuilt my two amps (both non HRM Skyliners, one low plate and one high plate) with help from Tony and Jelle, I finally felt my amps were "right."
Thanks for the responses Smitty and Gil.

I've been resisting it but I think it's time to take a closer look at component types.
What your talking about is balance? one of the more difficult aspects of building an ODS. I am constantly fighting the low end :evil:
The Music Man build in the Pics was taken from an original ODS posted by Audiodog :D This one was set up similar to the famous Ultrasound Tan amp that's fairly popular. This IMO is one of the better balanced low plate Skyliners I've built and it's setup w/25 uF on V1 and 4uF's on V2 100k drive/levels. I originally thought this setup would render the OD bass heavy?..This was not the case. My bass control sits right at noon and has never really drifted and the Clean has plenty of low end content IMO.
Everyone is different however for myself as long as the Low end in the OD side stays firm the amp will still want to sustain and sing. here are a few things you should consider (along with what Gil mentions with parts selection very important)

Raising the values on either OD Drive and OD level 0r OD trigger (100k/250k) will add in more bass and darken the sound.
Measure every coupling cap before it goes in and keep a tight tolerance (a must)
Check the orientation of each cap (Keeps lows firm)
Use High quality low ESR bypass caps(again firm)
NOS CTS Pots on gain controls (OD Level/Drive/Mstr) This is why I believe Dumble used all the same CTS pots here to help balance both channel's
The other thing you can do is the 102 mod? 40uF filtering on V2..(helps a little)
Output and preamp tube types matter
Cabinet/Speakers

Everyone has their own opinion on how much is too much or not enough so here are some things I consider when it comes to balance :wink:

Tony
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talbany wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:55 pm I had to do some upgrades on 3 of my amps so I had them all out of the cabs at the same time so I thought I would take a quick shot and share it..Sorry about the quality all I have is my phone :roll:
Left to right....Low plate classic/Low plate Skyliner Music Man/High plate Skyliner (separate bias pots)
Tony
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The phone takes ok pics and makes your amps remind me of vintage amp porn.

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Reeltarded wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:29 pm
talbany wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:55 pm I had to do some upgrades on 3 of my amps so I had them all out of the cabs at the same time so I thought I would take a quick shot and share it..Sorry about the quality all I have is my phone :roll:
Left to right....Low plate classic/Low plate Skyliner Music Man/High plate Skyliner (separate bias pots)
Tony
20210220_173451.jpg
The phone takes ok pics and makes your amps remind me of vintage amp porn.

See? I can post in the Dumble forum without getting in trouble.
nice to see yo back Miles, hope you're well :D


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you are going to get us in trouble
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Thank you for everything
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