C-lator vs Fuchs Verbrator

[Progear]

Thanks in advance for all your comments..

I have a Ceriatone HRM arriving any day and I’m curious on thoughts between the Ceriatone C-lator and Fuchs Verbrator. Not sure which way I want to go, I kinda like the reverb idea in the Fuchs pedal but not sure if it’s inferior to the C-lator with an added reverb pedal..

I have read articles that the c-later adds the extra gain stage which smooths out the gain part of the amp. Will the verbrator also do the same ?

Any thoughts and comments will be very welcome.. also I hope I’m in the correct forum.
Thanks AmpGarage

[erwin_ve]

Hi AG,

I dont know the technical differences as Im not in the known of the internals of the Verbrator.
I played a couple of times with the Verbrator and having a couple of Dumblelator builds in the house for comparison, there certainly is a difference.

There is frankly only 1 downside to the Verbrator: you cant really crank the master on the amp to drive the verbrators cathode follower into fat compression as it will distort the reverb side of the Verbrator. That's the thing I like most about the Dumblelator, drive the cathode follower real hard.
Other than that: The Verbrator is highly recomendable due to it's size, price and sound( it actually sounds very good!).

Erwin

[Progear]

Thank you Erwin

I think I’m going C-lator route ...

[Carltone]

It's nice to have the parallel loop option of the Verberator when you run rack effects

[Guido van der Sluis]

Hey guys,

I've been using the Verbrator now for multiple years, and I'm really satisfied with it. Indeed the one drawback Erwin already indicated is that the Verbrator is unity gain only. Other than that, its direct path sounds very good, the reverb sounds fantastic. It supports and effects loop that can be switched between serial (which I don't use) and parallel and if level wise very well adaptable to any effect you might wish to connect. I use it combined with my OTS 50 Skyliner (with zillions of mods..)

Hope this input is of help.

Guido

[Progear]

Thanks guys for the comments, I moved ahead and ordered from Nik... my next quest would be a reverb or delay or a combo pedal of both... I currently have a Roland Re20 pedal which some days I like and others days I don’t...

[norburybrook]

Both Just get a TC Hall of Fame verb and a Flashback delay, job done



M

[ayan]

Both Just get a TC Hall of Fame verb and a Flashback delay, job done

M

I’ve been using the combo above for many years, both in front of the amp or in the FX loop via a Dumbleator. Those pedals sound great. I have a smaller and a larger board, in the smaller I run a HoF mini. If you’re not a reverb-a-holic, the mini is perfect. Only draw back might be if you want to run in stereo. I have the large Flashbacks, and although I mostly use my own TonePrint, I prefer to have the option to run something different every now and then. I think I bought all four pedals used, the can be had for very reasonable prices at TGP, for example.

[norburybrook]

yep, there's not much you can't cover with those two, combined with the editor and the on line tone prints you can load via your phone you've got a set of great sounding, versatile verbs and delays. Also both those pedals will take line level so you can put them directly in the loop at a push if you're careful with levels.


M

[daniboy79]

I have a Ceriatone OTS FM50 ME and a C-Lator in the FX loop. I am currently using both a TC Electonic Drip for Reverb, then a Xvive Memory Delay(in that order) in the C-LATOR FX send. I prefer the amps drive sound with my Reverb/Delay in the loop. The only issue I'm having is that there are definite noise/artifacts that present themselves with the Reverb engaged and playing(no artifacts when I don't play the guitar). I have tried lowering the input level to the Reverb with the C-Lator Drive knob, but no difference. I have removed the delay and left only the Reverb also with no luck. I then tried running the Reverb pedal with a battery as opposed to the 9V power supply, without luck. I have also tried the Reverb pedal into the front of the amp and there are no noise/artifacts, so the pedal itself doesn't appear to be faulty. I then tried another Reverb pedal(Biyang Tri-verb) in the loop, and it works well with no noise/artifacts. I prefer the sound of the TC Electonic Drip by miles, so I'm really bummed that this problem is present.

Here's my current board

[rogb]

I have a Ceriatone OTS FM50 ME and a C-Lator in the FX loop. I am currently using both a TC Electonic Drip for Reverb, then a Xvive Memory Delay(in that order) in the C-LATOR FX send. I prefer the amps drive sound with my Reverb/Delay in the loop. The only issue I'm having is that there are definite noise/artifacts that present themselves with the Reverb engaged and playing(no artifacts when I don't play the guitar). I have tried lowering the input level to the Reverb with the C-Lator Drive knob, but no difference. I have removed the delay and left only the Reverb also with no luck. I then tried running the Reverb pedal with a battery as opposed to the 9V power supply, without luck. I have also tried the Reverb pedal into the front of the amp and there are no noise/artifacts, so the pedal itself doesn't appear to be faulty. I then tried another Reverb pedal(Biyang Tri-verb) in the loop, and it works well with no noise/artifacts. I prefer the sound of the TC Electonic Drip by miles, so I'm really bummed that this problem is present.

Here's my current board

If you can get one on easy return (in case you don't like it) , I would definitely try a Suhr MinMix, this will allow you use your effects in parallel via the D Lator. You can run TC HOF and FB with kill-dry so 100% wet. It might allow more uneffected signal through? Anyway, I had one in my 100w rig and it sounded just fantastic, undigitised guitar signal with the effects "layered" on top. It was magic!

https://www.suhr.com/electronics/tone-t ... inimix-ii/

[martin manning]

Is the C-tone amp's master before the loop send as in the typical ODS arrangement? If so, where i that set? Maybe you are overdriving the TC Drip.

[pompeiisneaks]

Both Just get a TC Hall of Fame verb and a Flashback delay, job done

M

I’ve been using the combo above for many years, both in front of the amp or in the FX loop via a Dumbleator. Those pedals sound great. I have a smaller and a larger board, in the smaller I run a HoF mini. If you’re not a reverb-a-holic, the mini is perfect. Only draw back might be if you want to run in stereo. I have the large Flashbacks, and although I mostly use my own TonePrint, I prefer to have the option to run something different every now and then. I think I bought all four pedals used, the can be had for very reasonable prices at TGP, for example.

I too love this combo, but I have the flashback x4 with the HOF reverb. Love them.

~Phil

[pompeiisneaks]

I have a Ceriatone OTS FM50 ME and a C-Lator in the FX loop. I am currently using both a TC Electonic Drip for Reverb, then a Xvive Memory Delay(in that order) in the C-LATOR FX send. I prefer the amps drive sound with my Reverb/Delay in the loop. The only issue I'm having is that there are definite noise/artifacts that present themselves with the Reverb engaged and playing(no artifacts when I don't play the guitar). I have tried lowering the input level to the Reverb with the C-Lator Drive knob, but no difference. I have removed the delay and left only the Reverb also with no luck. I then tried running the Reverb pedal with a battery as opposed to the 9V power supply, without luck. I have also tried the Reverb pedal into the front of the amp and there are no noise/artifacts, so the pedal itself doesn't appear to be faulty. I then tried another Reverb pedal(Biyang Tri-verb) in the loop, and it works well with no noise/artifacts. I prefer the sound of the TC Electonic Drip by miles, so I'm really bummed that this problem is present.

Here's my current board

I'm really jealous of the Klon! I've got the way huge green rhino and love the meat on it. I did buy the Electro Harmonix soul food as it's supposedly one of the better Klon Clones out there and its only 100 bucks.

Nice rig all around!

~Phil

[norburybrook]

If you can get one on easy return (in case you don't like it) , I would definitely try a Suhr MinMix, this will allow you use your effects in parallel via the D Lator. You can run TC HOF and FB with kill-dry so 100% wet. It might allow more uneffected signal through? Anyway, I had one in my 100w rig and it sounded just fantastic, undigitised guitar signal with the effects "layered" on top. It was magic!

https://www.suhr.com/electronics/tone-t ... inimix-ii/

Hey Rog, how's it going?

This is interesting because I've been using wet/dry recently as anything you put in the loop or in front of the amp changes the tone. I think what Roger mentions is a great idea and I'd like to try that as it cut's down on gear but essentially it's the same thing, keep your amp sound unadulterated and blend some 100% wet FX with it.


Is there a way to mod the C-lator to have a parallel effects? I have aone ready to build to it would be great to do this.


M