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								by Mr. dB   »  Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:30 am 
			
			
			
			
			Bombacaototal  wrote: ↑ Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:28 pm  
Aaron  wrote: ↑ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:51 pm 
I'm still hesitant with the LNFB V1b+V2a, actually it's V2+V3a. If V2 is a pentode, there isn't enough parts in the circuit to make it work.
Based on the comment from
 Electron: You have the first tube right,but the feed back on the second tube is taken off the cathode of a third tube . 
And after reading this: 
http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/pentode.html 
I am wondering if maybe the LNFB is not like attached in the SSS #002 style with the values from the handsketch (10M, .05uF)?
Pure guessing so take it with a pinch of salt
You've returned your feedback loop to ground?
If you meant to return it to the cathode, you can't do that either unless you remove the bypass cap.
 
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Bombacaototal   »  Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:06 am 
			
			
			
			
			Mr. dB  wrote: ↑ Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:30 am  
Bombacaototal  wrote: ↑ Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:28 pm  
Aaron  wrote: ↑ Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:51 pm 
I'm still hesitant with the LNFB V1b+V2a, actually it's V2+V3a. If V2 is a pentode, there isn't enough parts in the circuit to make it work.
Based on the comment from
 Electron: You have the first tube right,but the feed back on the second tube is taken off the cathode of a third tube . 
And after reading this: 
http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/pentode.html 
I am wondering if maybe the LNFB is not like attached in the SSS #002 style with the values from the handsketch (10M, .05uF)?
Pure guessing so take it with a pinch of salt
You've returned your feedback loop to ground?
If you meant to return it to the cathode, you can't do that either unless you remove the bypass cap.
I thought this was the approach taken on #002 (attached) between V1B and V2A
Just realised I am missing one resistor before the ground of the 1st cathode
 
			
			
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								by Mr. dB   »  Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:08 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Bombacaototal  wrote: ↑ Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:06 am  
Just realised I am missing one resistor before the ground of the 1st cathode
Ah that makes all the difference.  
 
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Bombacaototal   »  Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:22 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Mr. dB  wrote: ↑ Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:08 pm  
Bombacaototal  wrote: ↑ Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:06 am  
Just realised I am missing one resistor before the ground of the 1st cathode
Ah that makes all the difference.  
 
Sorry about that 
 
BAck to the task in hand, is this idea a possibility? Another could be cathode of V3b and plate load of V2, but not sure how that would work
 
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Bombacaototal   »  Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:31 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Another pic of this amp (right side)
			
			
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