Non-HRM LNFB

[heisthl]

I'm thinking about incorporating another relay in my next non-HRM build that only engages the LNFB on CL2 when OD is selected. Is the general consensus favoring the clean sound of a HRM VS the clean sound of non-HRM. Lets do a poll

[Pete]

I'm thinking about incorporating another relay in my next non-HRM build that only engages the LNFB on CL2 when OD is selected. Is the general consensus favoring the clean sound of a HRM VS the clean sound of non-HRM. Lets do a poll

What about LNF on clean only when OD is off? Also what is the difference between HRM clean circuit vs non HRM clean? Plate/cathode values? sorry, I guess I'm confused.

[heisthl]

What about LNF on clean only when OD is off? Also what is the difference between HRM clean circuit vs non HRM clean? Plate/cathode values? sorry, I guess I'm confused.

I was under the impression that LNFB was a necessary evil for shaping the tone for the OD section and was not intended for shaping the clean sound(evidenced by HAL NOT using it in the HRM builds). There is no other difference in the plate/cathode values or stack/coupling values for the cleans in either amp.

[ayan]

There is no other difference in the plate/cathode values or stack/coupling values for the cleans in either amp.

Depends upon what 80s non HRM you're talking about: old style VS early 80s w/Deep switch VS 80s Skyliner w/Mid switch, all of which are different from one another.

Cheers,

Gil

[Funkalicousgroove]

Why not just put the FB on a switch?

[heisthl]

Why not just put the FB on a switch?

If it is a worthwhile mod it would need to be "automatic" for stage use.

[Funkalicousgroove]

Put it on a relay linked to your OD relay. I GUARANTEE the people in whatever bar you're in couldn't tell you the difference between with and without the feedback, they just want you to turn it down so that they can try to pick up the chick they're talking to. Why throw pearls before swine?

[Darkbluemurder]

Put it on a relay linked to your OD relay. I GUARANTEE the people in whatever bar you're in couldn't tell you the difference between with and without the feedback, they just want you to turn it down so that they can try to pick up the chick they're talking to. Why throw pearls before swine?

I would definitely agree for the clean sound - the difference is very subtle to my ears. I heard a bigger difference for the overdrive sound.

[Pete]

Why not just put the FB on a switch?

If it is a worthwhile mod it would need to be "automatic" for stage use.

Comparisons I've done seem to lead me to believe the cleans sounded a little lighter on the low end. Some might call this "tighter" low end, I call it not quite as fat, and I like it fatter (as long as it isn't distorted). Also a bit more compressed somehow, I didn't prefer that either, not what I call a good compression. More like using a dynamics compressor effect, too squashed. All this seem to be emphasized negatively with the OD on. So I would vote for maybe LNFB on clean only if one needed to clean up some mud. MHO

[heisthl]

Comparisons I've done seem to lead me to believe the cleans sounded a little lighter on the low end. Some might call this "tighter" low end, I call it not quite as fat, and I like it fatter (as long as it isn't distorted). Also a bit more compressed somehow, I didn't prefer that either, not what I call a good compression. More like using a dynamics compressor effect, too squashed. All this seem to be emphasized negatively with the OD on. So I would vote for maybe LNFB on clean only if one needed to clean up some mud. MHO

What!!!! now you've confused me, are you saying you like the sound of the OD in a non-HRM without LFB?

[jaysg]

I GUARANTEE the people in whatever bar you're in couldn't tell you the difference between with and without the feedback, they just want you to turn it down so that they can try to pick up the chick they're talking to. Why throw pearls before swine?

Please cease and disist from speaking TRUTH....

[Pete]

What!!!! now you've confused me, are you saying you like the sound of the OD in a non-HRM without LFB?

Well, I don't have an amp wired that way currently, going from not so recient memory. Does the following make any sense? The LNF reduces bottom slightly, the OD circuit generally can have brightness issues (some people have devised interesting ways to tame this), this seems like it could be a troublesome combination. Just thinking . Are you saying the OD would be too woofy/farty without LFB?

[Funkalicousgroove]

I like the LFN in 80's amps with 6l6's but not with el34's.