Is it a Dumble the amp for me? from soul to stoner

[whitewave]

Hi,

I need some suggestions, cause I'm going to buy a Dumble clone from Ceriatone.
I play in two bands, first is a stoner rock and the other a raggae - funky - soul - Allman and so one jam band.

Now I'm playing a Traynor YCV 40 WR, with many very good pedals is quite good to obtain the souns I need, but I miss the distortion coming from the amp as I always had.
Some months ago I had a 1986 plexi from Ceriatone, it was very good, but too much bass frequencies for my PRS, and it was quite difficult to have a clean sound with a non master vol single channel head.
I know Nik quality, and I'd like to buy again from him.

Clean samples of Dumble clones are simply perfect, gorgeous sounds, that sustain on such a sweet sound....

But as for distortions I have some doubts. If I could afford one I'd buy a Fuchs ODS 50, so I guess a Dumble could be quite enough similar to have all the tones I need. Mid gain Robben ford lead is where the amp shines, I like it obviously but I need more and no one makes rythms samples with it.
I know it won't be a JCM800 or a Matchless for that hard rock stuff like Pearl Jam, that's not my sound even if I play that styff, but I wonder if I can get a smooth, fat, quite tight sound for chords, or Warren Haynes like rythms.
Some samples shows a spongy tone on chord, while the youtube d'lite one makes me feel more confortable in buying this amp.

Is a 6L6 Ceriatone Dumble the one for me?

Thanks.

[Sven]

Greetings,

Dumble clone, D'Lite, is not sold by Ceriatone (as seen from their Web site). The kit is sold by the Brown Note, as seen from their link

http://brownnote.net/forum/viewforum.ph ... 828d2c0b98

[Bob-I]

I've never seena Ceritone Dumble clone, I don't know that they make one. Can you post the link?

As for Dumble being for you, I can't answer that. The amp itself is not really a hi gain machine, but with pedals you can push it to death.

[brownnote]

ceriatone or brownnote...as Bob said pedals will send it right over the edge..I use a variety of pedals in front of mine and the amp sounds awesome this way too.

[whitewave]

Thanks to everyone.

This page o Steelbender site has great video samples of a Fuchs ODS 50. The hi gain one is simply perfect for me and I love the others.

I'm only a bit afraid about the character of the distorted tones, I don't want spongy sounds or "tweed" like, I prefer a much more articulate and balanced distortion, smooth, with lots of sustain and so on.

Are you still suggesting me that a Dumble clone with a pedal can achieve that kind of sound?

[groovtubin]

Thanks to everyone.

This page o Steelbender site has great video samples of a Fuchs ODS 50. The hi gain one is simply perfect for me and I love the others.

I'm only a bit afraid about the character of the distorted tones, I don't want spongy sounds or "tweed" like, I prefer a much more articulate and balanced distortion, smooth, with lots of sustain and so on.

Are you still suggesting me that a Dumble clone with a pedal can achieve that kind of sound?

a bogner exsctacy homebrew is what ya need man!! Great cross between a plexi/and a dumble, not too mushy, but gobs of sustain, killer blues tones as well as hi-gain..go to bogner site and listen to clips..

[tonejunkie]

I agree with Brown Note I use a TS9 clone in front an I get a good amont of tight distortion for some rock stuff. I am in a jam band myself and I love my D clones.

TJ

Maybee I'll try to get some recordings up.

[whitewave]

I'm quite sure it has enough gain with a pedal for hard rock, but I'm wondering about distortion character.
I'm listening to many samples and many have sag and spongy feel, I don't want sag with my chords, I hate it.

It's strange to have the possibility to play a Dumble but thinking to spend money on a Orange Rocker 30 head.

Thanks again to everyone.


PS: Bogner are without any doubts great amps, but Bogner to me means Shiva, as a modern and versatile head my vote goes to SLO100. But they're completely out of my price range.

[groovtubin]

I'm quite sure it has enough gain with a pedal for hard rock, but I'm wondering about distortion character.
I'm listening to many samples and many have sag and spongy feel, I don't want sag with my chords, I hate it.

It's strange to have the possibility to play a Dumble but thinking to spend money on a Orange Rocker 30 head.

Thanks again to everyone.


PS: Bogner are without any doubts great amps, but Bogner to me means Shiva, as a modern and versatile head my vote goes to SLO100. But they're completely out of my price range.

def can agree w/that! A garmopat modded TS-9 into my CLEAN HRM channel is HEAVENLY, i use it for a dif twist, chek out Garmopatmods.com!

[Buschman]

It sounds like you should build a Trainwreck.

[whitewave]

you're not completely wrong but....

Trainwreck is a beast under fingers, a too much difficult amp to tame, I don't want that kind of amp.
I need a clean tone (a bit of edge on it it's not a problem) that I can use with the guitar volume pot on ten and strumming hard, a single channel hard rock amp can't give me that kind of sound, I'm thinking to plexis too and I had a 1986 Ceriatone plexi for some months.

This is why plexi, jcm800, express and so on would be great in my setup only if I have the possibility of owning two heads, a Fender-like and a Marshall-like.

Moreover I do prefer different distorted sounds over the EL34 aggressive tones. 6L6 tones first of all to my hears are a lot deepers and more defined on basses, and then they're not as grainy.
I'll try to explain better, I know that a more aggressive amp would be perfect for some of my needs, but I can accept to have a bit less than perfect sound in order to have gorgeous cleans and versatility.
I play in a Stoner band, but I love to spend some afternoons with a dear friend of mine jamming at just more than bedroom volumes, from Ben Harper to Bob Marley, from Stones to Allmans.
A Trainwreck is way too much for that, both for decibels and tone.

Thanks.




PS: excuse me, I think I made many mistakes in this post, but I'm italian and it's difficult to explain this nuances of tones.

[daz]

I've never seena Ceritone Dumble clone, I don't know that they make one. Can you post the link?

I've got one of ceriatone's prototype dumble chassis which I put d'lite circuit in. It's not on his site, still being developed.

[Bob-I]

I've never seena Ceritone Dumble clone, I don't know that they make one. Can you post the link?

I've got one of ceriatone's prototype dumble chassis which I put d'lite circuit in. It's not on his site, still being developed.

[whitewave]

Nik can build a non hrm late '80 50w Dumble clone.
I trust him 'cause I bought an amp for me and order other for some friends.
I'm still wondering about sag for chords, doesn't anyone know how far is a Fuchs ODS from a '80 Dumble?
Does the non-HRM sound way more midrangey and "vintage" like?

[Bob-I]

Nik can build a non hrm late '80 50w Dumble clone.
I trust him 'cause I bought an amp for me and order other for some friends.
I'm still wondering about sag for chords, doesn't anyone know how far is a Fuchs ODS from a '80 Dumble?
Does the non-HRM sound way more midrangey and "vintage" like?

To my ears the non-hrm is a bit more aggressive where the hrm is sweeter and smoother.