Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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That is interesting comparing the 6PS and 418P.

Both round.

6PS 10%

418P 5%, 10%, 20%

418P three choices of lead style

The 418P series is available through the Sprague/Vishay Distribution Network on special order.

I think perhaps the 418P is a ruggedized component for more severe conditions.
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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[quote="Structo"]That is interesting comparing the 6PS and 418P.

Both round.

6PS 10%

418P 5%, 10%, 20%

418P three choices of lead style

The 418P series is available through the Sprague/Vishay Distribution Network on special order.

I think perhaps the 418P is a ruggedized component for more severe

conditions.[/quote]

Well, I've got both 418P and 6PS available and was just wondering if one is preferred over the other. Maybe at this point it's like splitting hairs.
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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Yes, I think for our purposes they can be used interchangeably.
Like I said some of the wording on the spec sheets leads me to believe the 418P is more rugged but they are the same physical size as the 6PS.
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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Just to chime in. I built a Brownface Pro replica for a customer awhile ago. I used the Sozo blue caps and I thought they sounded quite smooth to my ear. They certainly brighten up the innards of an amp :lol:
They are a little larger than the old fender blues but not hugely different.
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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I was digging through some of SBE data files and it seems that in 1999 SBE acquired some axial capacitor manufacturing equipment, process
documentation, materials, engineering specifications, etc.

The 470P is a axial polyester film and foil cap.

Value range from .001 - 2uF, 100-1000v

Apparently SBE discontinued the 192P and now substitute the 470P for it.

Doesn't seem to be anybody that carries them.
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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Someone said they like the old mustard caps...

I tried the Sprague 6PS caps in my ODS and had to take them out... too hard sounding for my ears. Then I tried the yellow Sozo mustard cap replicas and really like them. The sound is smooth & warm with plenty of clarity...

I think the total circuit the of the amp including the power supply makes a difference in what signal caps will ultamately sound the best.

I'm using the big Solen poly caps in the power supply which may be why a darker sounding cap works better in my amp...

my .02

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I was going through my 6PS caps and I came across some Spragues that looked older and kind of a toastier orange color. They're labeled A1-081. They're .047 600 DC. They look just like an older 6PS. Anyone know of this number?
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Re: Capacitors - why Orange drop and not Fender blue

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tictac wrote:Someone said they like the old mustard caps...TT
I recently tried a few 600v Mustard Caps in the PI of a Bluesmaster I built for a friend after reading some of the original posts in this thread and was shocked at how much better it made the amp sound.

IMHO I don't think they sound good anywhere else in the amp and Mustard caps don't work for any other voicing other than a Bluesmaster.
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