Anybody thinking about Scumback speakers be careful!!

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Chuck,
I'm not very good at spinning, just reading the emails and your outrage at being asked to pay what you asked me to buy for you. The piping for a head cab around the valance/face is not the same as what's used on a cab, so that alone had to be ordered especially for this deal, and you knew it.

But you seem to forget you told me to have it by a certain date, do it over a weekend, ship it out the next week early so you could have it back by the next weekend.

Beyond the mere cost of materials is the weekend I spent at home expecting to do your head cab with no notice from you that I didn't have to wait. And for the record, you never contacted me once you sold it, I had to contact you, just as I posted before.

Maybe you think it's ok to screw with someone's weekend based on being a complete flake, but I'm guessing if you did this to someone else and screwed with their weekend for no reason, or if you had someone do it to you, you'd probably feel quite differently. But you were never good at communication, or at putting yourself in someone else's shoes, huh?

If you had contacted me prior to the materials being ordered, told me you were selling the head cab and to hold off, we wouldn't even have this thread going, would we? Of course not! So step up and accept the responsibility of not doing what you should have done, Chuck, because you own it all. You are a flake, and I asked you to pay for your flake attitude and you took it personally. Welcome to reality, sir. I get the idea you've never had to pay for your own mistakes before, and routinely shove them off on others. I guess that's why your Dad paid that $35 for you, and not you, huh? Or maybe you can decipher this paypal note included with the $35 payment, but it seems clear that your Dad is paying your debts, even for the amount of $35. Now who was hurting for cash here...really?

Paypal note: "Here is the $35 for the tolex. Please refrain from emailing me because I no longer want to read anything from you. My son's value's are just fine as are mine. I have never backed out of any deals so I really don't know who you are getting your information from but you can believe what you want to believe. You must be hurting for money if you are making such a great deal out of $35 sorry to hear that. Well now you can double your money on this deal because you are getting money from me and you can charge the next person $35 for the tolex as well. Good luck to you."


It seems the members at Rig Talk felt pretty much how I do, by the way.

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic ... 76&start=0 :roll:
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Jim,
There was a miscommunication and you flipped on me. I apologize if it screwed your weekend up. The reason I got so mad is the emails you sent me ranting and raving at me. I sent you the money. As for the guys on Rig Talk you put up a response that was completely one sided and before I got a chance to reply to it the thread was locked. You have a loyal following and good for you. As for the members comments over there well I won't lose any sleep over a few guys calling me names on an internet forum.

To be honest it is ridiculous that all this is going on over less than $50 worth of material that I paid for. I don' understand how I screwed your weekend up over it because you didn't work on the amp head I still had it.

I tried to make amends with you last night and you fired off that emailing swearing and calling me names. I was willing to forget the past and start fresh but for some reason you have no desire to. I am done with the issue and I am not going to worry about it. I'll find some other speakers. Good luck to you and your business in the future I hope you become wealthy beyond your wildest dreams.

I don't know where you get the idea my Dad paid for my mistakes? I make more money than my Dad does. Give me a break.
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One word: obtuse.

You asked me to have the materials on a Friday to go with your cab that needed stripping/restoration. I did what I was supposed to do, be available to do that.

Towards that I blocked out my weekend to do this for you. My wife went off and had fun without me. Did I stay home and work on a cab? No. Why? Because you can't communicate, just as you can't read. The post above shows the paypal payment note sent, and I don't even know if you have kids, so that only means that someone else paid the payment and referred to you with this statement:

My son's value's are just fine as are mine. I have never backed out of any deals so I really don't know who you are getting your information from but you can believe what you want to believe.

You backed out of this deal, so that couldn't have been you writing to me on the paypal payment, unless of course you just lied there, too.

So basically, Chuck, you didn't miscommunicate at all. You NEVER told me at all that you sold the head.

By the time I did find out, I spent a weekend doing nothing I was supposed to, or could have because of you, plus the $35. That's worth way more than $35. I'll bet you think your weekend is worth more than that, too.

So, once again, you didn't do what you were supposed to do. I did leave a few voice mails, you probably deleted them, and you did not respond to emails. You had to be told to send the money, you didn't offer. You just figured I stocked that stuff, when you knew in advance I didn't. You assumed, Chuck, even when you were told differently. My guess is you're either smoking too much of Michigan's finest, or you just are a totally inconsiderate jerk. Either way, you dropped the ball, not me, Chuck. Period.
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To clarify why I said my son's values are just fine in the paypal it was a rebuttal to this comment you sent me in one of your rant emails:

"I hope you’re not teaching your son this set of values. That would be really sad. Perhaps it’s time to reconsider how you interface with others in the world, instead of the “It’s all about me!” path you currently seem to be on."

That is just part of the email you sent me. I will for your sake leave out the rest where you call me a bunch of nasty words. I really would like to drop this whole thing but you call me out and make me defend myself with proof. So just drop the whole thing.

I mean really Jim you got more to lose than me. I don't care what people believe because I know what went down. You have your version and I have mine. I don't have a business that depends alot on perception of me on the internet you do. I don't really care if some people here or at Rig Talk don't like me or have an opinion about me. Will I ever see any of those guys? No! But you might lose a customer or two.
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I don't care who's dirty laundry this is, it STINKS regardless.

Take this private folks. No one wants to hear about your quibbles.
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Yeah, I'm sure your credibility has not been questioned at all during this whole charade, Chuck, that's why you're here posting, right? As for me, I'm a straight shooter, but you are not, it's that simple.

You jerked me around, I responded to it as I did before. You knew exactly what would happen, or you must be having a big old bowl of Michigan's finest, thinking you've actually hurt me, or my business. If anything you've proved I have no reason to jerk anyone around, and you've helped me instead of hurt me. Your whole plan backfired.

You got called the names you deserved (flake, ahole, etc) and STILL deserve, based on your actions. Your smartest move would have been to just realize you're guilty as charged, learn to change for the better, stop jerking people around and never contact me again. But no, you started these threads and got your ass gang raped for your trouble.

If anyone has any doubt as to who jerked who around here, you have provided all the proof anyone needs, so thanks for sharing. Especially that last troubled email where you ask me all these questions to answer, then tell me if I reply it's going straight into the trash without you reading it. Pure passive/aggressive internet trash talking from the safety of a keyboard in your home 2200 miles away.

You and I both know if it came to a face to face meeting, lie detector test or anything of the sort you would be the loser. So just be that, would you? Feel free to post as many times as you want here, since your wish to be banned at Rig-Talk was just granted. This might be the only forum you aren't banned or suspended from now. Enjoy.
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Every post I see of yours, you are arguing or trash talking. Either way not contributing to the point of this forum...

Kinda gives you a bad persona. But you probably don't care that I will never buy your speakers...Shi t talk me if you want...
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Do the TAG moderators never visit their own forum anymore?? :oops:
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You are right I apologize.

dartanion wrote:I don't care who's dirty laundry this is, it STINKS regardless.

Take this private folks. No one wants to hear about your quibbles.
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procos wrote:You are right I apologize.

dartanion wrote:I don't care who's dirty laundry this is, it STINKS regardless.

Take this private folks. No one wants to hear about your quibbles.
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ChrisM wrote:Every post I see of yours, you are arguing or trash talking. Either way not contributing to the point of this forum...

Kinda gives you a bad persona. But you probably don't care that I will never buy your speakers...Shi t talk me if you want...
I've contributed to this forum for awhile. Sorry you think I have a bad persona, but that can't be helped in this thread due to procos. I don't shit talk people without good reason, and I have no reason to do so to you, even if you won't ever buy any of my products. Peace.
dartanion wrote:I don't care who's dirty laundry this is, it STINKS regardless.

Take this private folks. No one wants to hear about your quibbles.
Talk to the OP, sir. He started the thread. I was fine with email. In fact I asked him to stop emailing me last night, this was his response since he wasn't winning there.
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Southbay Ampworks wrote:
ChrisM wrote:Every post I see of yours, you are arguing or trash talking. Either way not contributing to the point of this forum...

Kinda gives you a bad persona. But you probably don't care that I will never buy your speakers...Shi t talk me if you want...
I've contributed to this forum for awhile. Sorry you think I have a bad persona, but that can't be helped in this thread due to procos. I don't shit talk people without good reason, and I have no reason to do so to you, even if you won't ever buy any of my products. Peace.
dartanion wrote:I don't care who's dirty laundry this is, it STINKS regardless.

Take this private folks. No one wants to hear about your quibbles.
Talk to the OP, sir. He started the thread. I was fine with email. In fact I asked him to stop emailing me last night, this was his response since he wasn't winning there.
PM sent to you, and to Chuck.

Now both of deal with this elsewhere please.
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Get this thing outta here huh
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I worked over 12 hours today. I just don't have the patience to deal with this. Thread locked!
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